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by tj86430 Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:53 pm
$$Bcm29
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I'm hoping for something like this:
$$Wc
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Adanux
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by Adanux Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:58 pm
$$Bcm29
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$$Bcm29
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm29 The normal joseki move would be the hane at b rather than extending at a, but that does not take into account the marked stones for black or white. The existence of the marked white stone means that I don't need to fear my two stones being attacked after he fixes his cut, and the marked stone for black means that if I let him fix his cut and then give him sente my upper stone will likely die. As a result of this, I don't think b is playable which leaves a as the best move available that I can see.
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by tj86430 Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:16 am
$$Bcm31
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I was afraid he might do something like that. I suspect he will extend to H7 next, in which case I may try something like this:
$$Bcm33
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by Adanux Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:13 am
$$Bcm31
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by tj86430 Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:59 am
$$Bcm33
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by Adanux Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:03 am
$$Bcm33
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by tj86430 Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:48 am
$$Bcm35
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I'm not sure what I'll do next, but I'm still thinking about this:
$$Wcm36
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm36Now he can take a big point at e.g. a), but I still like my situation.
I think I can take upper left corner in sente:
$$Bcm39
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm39White needs a) or similar to secure life, I think. Another option is to invade his lower left corner, which will probably be my sente as well. But, let's see after he has moved.
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by Adanux Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:48 am
Sorry about taking so long to post this move.
$$Bcm35
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by tj86430 Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:34 am
$$Bcm37
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That was a good response by white, and I don't particularly enjoy it. Locally this is the obvious move, and since I couldn't find any terrible flaws in it, and since I don't think tenuki is good right now, I will play it.
I thought about this too, but while probably safer, it also leaves a bigger gap in my potential wall:
$$Bcm37
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm37I'm not overly happy with the recent turn of events, but on the whole I still think I'm doing ok.
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by Adanux Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 pm
$$Bcm37
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by tj86430 Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:27 am
$$Bcm39
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I think this is the biggest area right now. Some possible continuations:
$$Bcm39
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$$Bcm39
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by Adanux Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:40 am
$$Bcm39
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This is frustrating. I thought I could live in sente, but I can't find any adequate follow ups to punish him for playing elsewhere that would justify letting him double approach me. A play at F14 looked promising my reading says it won't work.
$$Bcm39 Looks promising
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm39 Looks promisingThe problem with this move is that he can defend at E15 which is also sente against my corner. If I ignore and cut anyway, the push and cut suddenly works.
$$Bcm41 Yikes
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm41 YikesAnd if it goes like this he gets to kill my top left stone and get a fairly large corner as well
. Since I couldn't find anything in the top left, I decided to respond to his approach and protect my territory on the left. As for my response, pincering seems bad since he'd be happy to jump in the corner and the small knight leaves an obvious invasion point at C8. Since none of these obvious responses to his approach seemed that great, I chose the one that looked the least terrible which was the large knight. However, even that doesn't seem that great. Hopefully I'll find a way to make use of the large amounts of aji he's left behind later on.
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by tj86430 Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:15 am
$$Bcm41
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by Uberdude Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:36 am
I don't like
. It might look nice as half way between d4 and d10, but it leaves the 3-3 point open to an easy invasion, and if white follows a normal joseki then d10 ends up too close to thickness. c6 would be better to make the corner invasion harder (small gote life instead of sente life). Or d6. Or a pincer.
At the top leaving the j15 shape makes my urgent-move-unplayed alarm bells ring. Black has the d17 then g17 and h18 combo there.
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by tj86430 Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:42 am
Wow, somebody is actually following this.
I can't wait until I can read all the (two) comments we've got so far!
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. Since I couldn't find anything in the top left, I decided to respond to his approach and protect my territory on the left. As for my response, pincering seems bad since he'd be happy to jump in the corner and the small knight leaves an obvious invasion point at C8. Since none of these obvious responses to his approach seemed that great, I chose the one that looked the least terrible which was the large knight. However, even that doesn't seem that great. Hopefully I'll find a way to make use of the large amounts of aji he's left behind later on.
. It might look nice as half way between d4 and d10, but it leaves the 3-3 point open to an easy invasion, and if white follows a normal joseki then d10 ends up too close to thickness. c6 would be better to make the corner invasion harder (small gote life instead of sente life). Or d6. Or a pincer.
I can't wait until I can read all the (two) comments we've got so far!