#213 Dusk Eagle vs Magicwand

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:34 pm

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Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:59 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:06 am

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EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:59 am

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:53 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:06 am

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Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:21 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:45 am

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Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:24 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm21 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . 4 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:32 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm21 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . 4 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

bgrieco · Post by **bgrieco** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:27 pm

Guys, sorry to jump in
This is the first Malkovich game I'm following.
I would enjoy playing one soon, but I have some doubts.

1) Back on move 12, black predicted several moves from white and, apparently, white had no problems with it and just kept on playing. Is this normal on those games ? I ask because I'm DDK and that would be a spoiler in my case.

2) How is the Malkovitching handled by the opponent ? I mean, appart from posting things like "I will win this game", "mirror this", there are notes that actually may give hints to the other part. Is the note thing only available to 3rd parties ?

3) this is a more tech stuff. I follow this thread with Tapatalk on Android and the boards are not shown nicely, is there a way to improve it ?

Thanks for your patience and sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.

cdybeijing · Post by **cdybeijing** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:18 pm

bgrieco wrote:Guys, sorry to jump in
This is the first Malkovich game I'm following.
I would enjoy playing one soon, but I have some doubts.

1) Back on move 12, black predicted several moves from white and, apparently, white had no problems with it and just kept on playing. Is this normal on those games ? I ask because I'm DDK and that would be a spoiler in my case.

2) How is the Malkovitching handled by the opponent ? I mean, appart from posting things like "I will win this game", "mirror this", there are notes that actually may give hints to the other part. Is the note thing only available to 3rd parties ?

3) this is a more tech stuff. I follow this thread with Tapatalk on Android and the boards are not shown nicely, is there a way to improve it ?

Thanks for your patience and sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.

The players agree with one another before the game starts that they will not read the hidden comments. Spectators, too, should not reveal the hidden comments to the players.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:24 pm

bgrieco wrote:Guys, sorry to jump in
This is the first Malkovich game I'm following.
I would enjoy playing one soon, but I have some doubts.

1) Back on move 12, black predicted several moves from white and, apparently, white had no problems with it and just kept on playing. Is this normal on those games ? I ask because I'm DDK and that would be a spoiler in my case.

2) How is the Malkovitching handled by the opponent ? I mean, appart from posting things like "I will win this game", "mirror this", there are notes that actually may give hints to the other part. Is the note thing only available to 3rd parties ?

3) this is a more tech stuff. I follow this thread with Tapatalk on Android and the boards are not shown nicely, is there a way to improve it ?

Thanks for your patience and sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.

1) I did that because I thought the moves were forced and obvious for both sides, and I wasn't giving away any information about my future plans by putting down several moves in a row. However, white had the option of rejecting my sequence at any point.

2) Both parties are bound by the honor system not to look at each other's hidden notes until the end of the game.

3) You might want to post about this in the Forum/Site Suggestions and Bugs subforum.

I hope you continue to enjoy the game

.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:32 pm

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I don't really know the best way to play in this situation. Here's my plan, but I don't think it's all that good.

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And I'll aim at 'a'.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:49 pm

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i am contemplating if i need to go this far...

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or just satisfied with below...

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if he doesnt play as above...then i will push him....
not too bad...

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i think i am thinking too much...
i will decide what to do after he show me his next move..

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