#197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Another admin has fallen! Who will fall against the wrath of the great Magicwand next time?!

Thanks for the game guys. Been fun following it.
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Thanks guys for the show.
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Yeah, thanks to both of you for making this so thrilling and for the insight into your minds!
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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You all are welcome...but actually I've been a bit disappointed in myself for recently slacking off in commenting.
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Thanks for playing, guys. I was actually not sure who was ahead as of the last couple of moves, so it would have been fun to see how things played out.

Still, good game.
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Review?
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Greetings,
thank you so much for an enthrall ing and informative thread.
It has been rather like ones daily bowel movement for some time. Got a bit unnerving on the days it didn't happen....
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Koroviev wrote:Review?

I tried to review but already mentioned all important thought during the game.
please ask if you have any questions.
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The greater the unknown"

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Buri wrote:...
It has been rather like ones daily bowel movement for some time...

:lol:
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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The one move that I really regret:

Uberdude wrote:...
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 3 6 8 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O 9 . . . . O X . . O . O O O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Arrgggggg! I can't belive that I missed that. I saw that 2 was forcing so I terminated the search on that branch without looking further. Move 7 is such a nice bonus.
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Koroviev wrote:Review?


Sure. I'd like to hear opinions on four things:
1) The upper right when W wedged
2) The lower left
3) T8 vs B2
4) Did I miss a kill on the left? ( Jedo's suggestion looks dangerous )
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
Koroviev wrote:Review?


Sure. I'd like to hear opinions on four things:
1) The upper right when W wedged
2) The lower left
3) T8 vs B2
4) Did I miss a kill on the right? ( Jedo's suggestion looks dangerous )


1) what drmwc said..
i was surprised to see that you answere other way.

2) i think below move is the best move: (best being safest way to win)
if you count correctly on below position.. you will realize that black can not lose this game.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O C . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


3) T8 appears to be bigger and simpler.
i made that choice after careful calculation of my lead.

4) yes you did missed the kill (i missed the kill initially)
i explained correct kill move if you go back and see my thread.

i was behind until you invested many moves on my left group and i tenukied to earn more points on top.
3 stones are big handycap.. even if you lose local fight you still have many chances to win.
i recommend SDKs not to give up on handycap game after big mistake. if you keep your cool then you will have good chance of winning.
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I got a chance to attend a lecture by Evan Cho, a 7D amateur from Korea. He commented on games that we played. I showed him this game. The SGF below has his comments, as best I can remember them.

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thank u for that comments
although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments.

moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking..
there is reason why i played that move.
if i played as he said i would lose on points.
not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE
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Magicwand wrote:thank u for that comments
although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments.

moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking..
there is reason why i played that move.
if i played as he said i would lose on points.
not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE


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