Zwergesel
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by Zwergesel Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:52 pm
Laman wrote: my alfa-beta prunning sometimes makes me miss something important
. luckily this wasnt the case
Alfa-beta pruning only cuts off unimportant branches. If you're missing something important you should tune your evaluation function!
SCNR
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by Magicwand Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:00 pm
$$Bcm1 Move #75 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Laman Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:43 am
$$Bcm1 Move #76 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Move #76 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
i wonder what is whites plan here. probably making aji or reducing my development, i dont really know...
$$Bcm1 Diagram 1: a or b miai
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 2: another continuation
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by Magicwand Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:19 am
$$Wcm77 Move #77 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Magicwand Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:22 am
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by Laman Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:27 am
$$Wcm77 Move #80 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Magicwand Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:31 am
$$Wcm77 Move #81 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Laman Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:30 am
$$Wcm77 Move #82 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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it is pain. i hope i will survive some way, otherwise it is bad.
$$Wcm1 Diagram 1: one possibility
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by Magicwand Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:33 am
$$Wcm77 Move #82 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Laman Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:59 am
$$Wcm77 Move #84 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Magicwand Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:10 am
$$Wcm77 Move #85 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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by Harleqin Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:25 am
I have no idea why Black did not hane here; it separates White:
$$Bc
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by Zwergesel Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:56 am
Harleqin wrote: I have no idea why Black did not hane here; it separates White:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI would expect the following continuation:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WcThis doesn't look good for black!
If
at
then white can capture the
stone! I'm not sure if that is any better for black!
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by Laman Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:10 am
$$Wcm77 Move #86 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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hmmm, not many moves ago i believed i can win quite easily and now i have been almost ready to resign. after long thinking it seems that by this move i can connect to the right or eat two white stones K5-K6 to live on my own. i might have to give up my four stones around N8, but cant be helped
$$Wcm1 Diagram 1
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by Harleqin Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:37 am
Zwergesel wrote:
Harleqin wrote: I have no idea why Black did not hane here; it separates White:
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcI would expect the following continuation:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WcThis doesn't look good for black!
If
at
then white can capture the
stone! I'm not sure if that is any better for black!
My idea was rather to force a connection like this:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WcI have to admit, though, that the separation on the left side is only of temporary nature then.
I just thought that there has to be a better way than to run into White's central stones. I am not sure whether this is realistic, or even whether it is better than the game.
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
. luckily this wasnt the case
at 
then white can capture the 
stone! I'm not sure if that is any better for black!