# 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm21 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
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I'm going on with the saying: strike the horse on it's belly
Don't know if it'll work, also preparing for an invasion in the lower right corner
Hope it works...
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm21 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . X O . |
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This is an interesting probe. I almost feel like I'm being sandbagged. Sure a few moves have been a bit slow, but overall, he's played well and very solid. I'm much better at beating weaker players who leave weaknesses to exploit or who play very passively. If they are only a little passive, but solid, it's hard to overcome a huge deficit.

The hane on top feels like an overplay:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O 9 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 7 6 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X 5 X O 0 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 3 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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The hane underneath feels too passive.

If I extend upwards, the :b2: for :w3: exchange feels great for black, so maybe I have to do something else.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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So, I chose my move to strengthen my stone and my connection.
Last edited by Dragon Pie on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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Dragon Pie,

I believe you haven't previewed your post prior to submitting it.
your hide box didn't work as it should.
Please fix it. I'll reply to your move later...
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm21 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
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This game is still very hard for me. If I keep my stones solid, I should get a chance to counter attack. Hopefully he does some overplays and let's me kill something big. Unfortunately, he seems to be too careful to hope for that.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not very interested in the corner, as I am in the lower side.
I still have the corner as an option, and I want to protect from that N9 dropping over the lower side
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 4 . . . . O . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still a hard game. The idea here is to make him at least play passively to settle. But, still, it's hard to foresee overcoming the komi. My opponent has played well.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O 5 . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

Post by bgrieco »

Dragon Pie,

It has been almost a week now. I would like to keep on playing.
But I believe you are not having fun anymore.
I see no point in playing if you are not interested. If you want to end this game, just say it. I have no problem with that.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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@bgrieco: Week long breaks aren't that rare in Malkovich games and this is a fun one to watch so don't kill it off so easily.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

Post by Dragon Pie »

Sorry. I just got busier than usual with life.

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 6 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not sure which response is best here. I suspect he'll cross cut and I'll sacrifice the stone.
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 7 6 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: # 214 - DragonPie vs. bgrieco

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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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[go]$$Bcm39 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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[go]$$Bcm31 Dragon Pie (1D Kgs) vs. bgrieco (16k IGS).
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