#210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . . X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . 5 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . 6 X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yeah, so I'm in a good spot and don't need anymore fights. Top left corner is probably largest place now but white has no time for defense. He has to find a weak point and strike.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O 2 . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . 6 X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 3 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . 8 X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I feel good with my advantage and it should be easy to avoid complications now.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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@magicwand

If you had seen :b22: would you have replied to :b10: ?
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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jts wrote:@magicwand

If you had seen :b22: would you have replied to :b10: ?


Jts. Yes.
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . 8 X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . O C O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is it the last open area? I'm clearly ahead so if I get this, I think the game will be simple.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . 1 . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i will give up after few moves.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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I had some teeth pulled yesterday and am on some nice pain meds... so I intend to make my move tomorrow.

Also, I've been playing horribly (mostly in the opening at least) lately and feel less confident after seeing him move in so deeply. First instinct is that I can protect and then keep him from connecting back.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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emerus wrote:I had some teeth pulled yesterday and am on some nice pain meds... so I intend to make my move tomorrow.

Also, I've been playing horribly (mostly in the opening at least) lately and feel less confident after seeing him move in so deeply. First instinct is that I can protect and then keep him from connecting back.


Classic MagicWand effect. There's no need to protect the cut. :mrgreen:

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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . 3 . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 2 X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . W . . 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



And with minimal reading, Black can keep his top-center stones healthy. Of course MW is aiming at this sequence.

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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O B B B O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O B O B O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O B O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X 2 X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X 4 3 5 O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . 8 6 . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 7 X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . W . . 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It boils down to a problem of sequence:

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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X 2 X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X 5 , 3 O X O 7 O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . 4 6 X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X . X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . W . . 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



All in all, it seems like MW is looking for a place to resign. This problem is not difficult, but emerus will have to hold his nerves against a stronger opponent in the face of this troubling move, and be confident that he can handle the big White group inside his moyo.

And of course, with MW there are no guarantees that he will actually stop there, and may try to exploit all the aji he can. :mrgreen:
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 2 X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X O X O X O X . . . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O X O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O O X 3 X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X 6 , 4 O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . 5 . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 7 X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No real problem, I think.... but winning a won game is a skill in itself. (So I've been told) I'll give it a try here.
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoners: White: 4 Black: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X 3 . X . O X O O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . X X O . . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O X O X O X X X O X . X X O . |
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$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 2 X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
he didnt need to answer so i got free aji...
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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$$ | . . . 4 . . . O X . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O X X . , . O X O . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X X . . X 2 X . . O . O . |
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$$ | . . O O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . X . O . . O X . . O O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I started to count... but... white hardly has enough to keep up with the captures. As long as I don't sleep for a dozen moves, this game should be over.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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@emerus
How sure are you that the lower side is your points? Did you think about spending a move there instead of top left (I'm guessing you didn't count before that, had you done so would you have played the same)?


@Obs
My (veiled) point is black L4 is probably the move that maximises the chance rather than margin of victory. I expect MW to try using the h5 cut and m3 aji to kill the p4 wall as a way of finding a place to resign.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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I thought about it when I answered his peeping move :w31:. I feel very confident that I can crush any fight that MW may try with the j3 stone.
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