#215: The Intrepid vs. drishti: Deep in the Endgame Weeds

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:53 pm

The overplay did not yield the desired result.

drishti rises to the level.

Now I wonder: how would he have responded to this move?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: , $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . O O . 2 . X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O . O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Oh well, let's see how optimal his moves will be from now on.

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm3 Prisoners: :b6: , :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . O O . 1 O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O 2 O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I need to lay low for a little bit. My hope is that Black becomes careless about the liberties of his group on the right, which could offer me a chance to make something happen there. Specifically, I am aiming to play

(for sake of eyespace) and

if the marked group ends up having only two liberties.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O B . 3 X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O B B B O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O B B O B . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . O O . B O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . B . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O B B . 1 | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O B B . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O . O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Incidentally,

in the game was not the best move point-wise. Black should have started with

, but I'll write more about that later.

drishti · Post by **drishti** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:27 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm3 Prisoners: :b6:, :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . 3 O O . 1 O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O 2 O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:25 am

The endgame is fighting strength.

-- Takagawa

Edit: Unhidden.

illluck · Post by **illluck** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:41 am

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:33 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm5 Prisoners: :b6: , :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 1 O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:58 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 1 O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . 3 . 5 . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . 4 . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I hope!

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 1 O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O 4 3 . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . 5 . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Edit: Unhidden.
Bingo!

tj86430 · Post by **tj86430** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:22 am

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:28 am

The Intrepid wrote: The second area is in the middle left, where I have a remote chance to cut off the big Black group in the middle while poking out it's potential second eye.
$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O . O O B O O . . O X O X . |
$$ | . X X X X O . O B B O B O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O B B B B O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X O O O B . B O X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . . . B B O O X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O X X O O O B M . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . O B B B O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O B O B B O O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . B B B O . . O O . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . B O B O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . . . B . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . B O O O . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X X O O . O . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O B O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O B B O B O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O B B B B O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O B . B O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . B B O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O B M . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O B B B O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O B O B B O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . B B B O . . O O . . . X . | $$ | . . . . . . B O B O . . . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . B . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . B O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O . O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm kind of baffled by how this is even possible. Black has one eye and miai for a second eye at L12 and H8, the connection to the rest of black's stones notwithstanding.

drishti · Post by **drishti** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:46 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm5 Prisoners: :b6:, :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 1 O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . 3 . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Uberdude · Post by **Uberdude** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:51 pm

Why did black have 9 stones?

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:08 pm

Because I keep winning with 9 stones, why else? (We'll probably move onto 8 stones after this game, though.)

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:31 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 Prisoners: :b6: , :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . 1 . . . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . 2 . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Turns out I did miss a move.

captures a few stones. Suddenly, Uberdude's question makes quite a bit of sense.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . X . 2 . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . 1 . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

What I had been looking at was this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . X . . 2 X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . 1 . . . 3 . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A bad misread on my part. Now I won't be able to pose Black with too many problems. But okay, "never give up, never surrender," so let's see if I can miraculously capture the huge Black group in the middle. Afterward, I'll try to live inside Black's territory on the right. If both of these attempts fail (which I expect them to), then I'll resign with clear conscience that I've exhausted all my chances.

drishti · Post by **drishti** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:52 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 Prisoners: :b6:, :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . 1 . 3 . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . 2 . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X . X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:51 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm9 Prisoners: :b6:, :w3: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . O . . . . O . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . X O O X O . O O X O O . . O X O X . | $$ | . X X X X O . O X X O X O O X X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O X X X X O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X X O O O X . X O X . O O . | $$ | . . X O O O X . . . X X O O X . . X . | $$ | . . X O X X O O O X . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . X O O . O . O X X X O X X X O . . | $$ | . . . X O O X O X X O O X X O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X O . X . 1 . X . O . | $$ | . . X . . . X . O . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X . X 2 X O O O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O X O O X X O O O O . . X O O . | $$ | . . O X X O X X . X X X O X X X X O . | $$ | . . O X O O X X X X . . . X O X O . . | $$ | . . O O . O X . X O O O O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . X O . . . O O O O . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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