magicwand versus drmwc

[drmwc]

$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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As planned. I like fights.

Weeeeee!

[Magicwand]

$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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only move

edit:

strongest move my opponent can make is as below...
if he plays that move..i dont have any chance of winning.

$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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$$ | . . . . X O O . O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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[drmwc]

$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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As planned. I connect stuff up, make my moyo bigger, and attack W in a very meaningful way. A multi purpose move.

Maybe W needs to fight the ko next. W can try somehting like Q6 first, aiming at my central group. But it's risky for W and I may be able to squash the ko in reply.

The fighting following my move seems quite favourable to me, but I may have overlooked something.

[Magicwand]

$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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$$ | . . . . X O O 8 O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 6 7 X . . 9 . X 2 . . . . |
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[go]$$Wcm176 B has captured 1
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$$ | . . . . X O O 8 O X X . X O . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 6 7 X . . 9 . X 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 5 X X . X . X . . . . . . |
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[Uberdude]

@MW:

A while back you ignored black's cap at j13 and defended the top left 3-3 point as you thought he should have invaded there instead. You now seem to recognise you are in trouble, so do you still think that previous judgement was correct and you made a mistake afterwards, or given how this fighting has gone would you revise that previous judgement?

i think he should have initiated 3-3 invasion with his last move.
i guess black having funny opening in the beginning must be giving him uneasy feeling.
luckly i feel that i am ahead in points and not bad in thickness.
i think below diag is better for black than what he played.
his last move seems out of place exposing weakness.

$$Bcm41 B has captured 1
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[go]$$Bcm41 B has captured 1
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[Magicwand]

@MW:

A while back you ignored black's cap at j13 and defended the top left 3-3 point as you thought he should have invaded there instead. You now seem to recognise you are in trouble, so do you still think that previous judgement was correct and you made a mistake afterwards, or given how this fighting has gone would you revise that previous judgement?

i think he should have initiated 3-3 invasion with his last move.
i guess black having funny opening in the beginning must be giving him uneasy feeling.
luckly i feel that i am ahead in points and not bad in thickness.
i think below diag is better for black than what he played.
his last move seems out of place exposing weakness.

$$Bcm41 B has captured 1
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[go]$$Bcm41 B has captured 1
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my opinion about 3-3 invasion has not changed.
i will have to study later sequences to find what went wrong but i am busy writing my final paper.

[Joaz Banbeck]

...
i will have to study later sequences to find what went wrong ...

IMHO, MW went wrong with F15 and F16. It was too close to his own strength, and accomplished virtually nothing for white. But it forced black to become strong on the upper side. This strength on the upper side is one of the things that makes MW's position so difficult now.

[drmwc]

$$Bcm185 B has captured 3
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[go]$$Bcm185 B has captured 3
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$$ | . . . , X X O O 1 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It's complex.

I can reject MW's sequence

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O 6 . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O 9 O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O 8 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 7 O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 2 3 X . . . . X X 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 1 X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O 6 . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O 9 O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O 8 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 7 O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 2 3 X . . . . X X 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 1 X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

4 above isn't totally daft. I could fight the ko after W connects at 5, or I could cu off a chunk of group as shown. w capture 3 stones, But my attack on the remaining group isn't too fierce, although my centre stones are reasonably strong. (There's some aji and W can aim at a ko after a, for example, but it's not an immediate concern.) this line may be playable for B.


Or I can accept MW's line.

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O 5 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O 5 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Caputring at 2 is an obvious thing to do. Following this, Mw has a couple of choices. He can save a small chunk of centre, and connect, as shown.

I then have different choice. a looksuseful, as it connect solidly, separates W and aims at a later attack, and possibly cut at b. But it's very slow and may be a dame. So I may play at 6 to expand my corner and avoid a dame connection.

W will invcade the top right corner soon after this.W has very little territory in this line. A count may be:

W: 5 point lower left (the whole group may become weak so he can't get much here now.)

10-15 points RHS.
20 upper left:
Total: 40 plus komi.

B's is a lot more undefined.
Definite territory is :
12 point in center.
8 point lower left.
Upper side: at least 20 points. Additionally, B has what I can nab in the remaining corners.
So this looks good for B.

So W may try to avoid this, for example by:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O a X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 5 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O a X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 5 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

W may choose not to save the small chunk of centre, and go for B's side stones instead. The follow up at a is big yose, but not urgent for either player. If I play this way, my initial thought is to play at 6 above and I should get a big corner. I will give up the side stones. This also seems quite playable to me.

So W may try this:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 6 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 7 X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 3 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . 8 . . , a . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 6 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 7 X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 3 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . 8 . . , a . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In this line, W give up all the senter to get the vital point at 5. There is a question as to whether 6 genuinely is my sente or not at this time - it may be too early. I then play at 8 or a, and again seem to have a good position.

I can also consider answering the ko thereat directly e.g.:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O a . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 3 X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 2 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O a . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 3 X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 2 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can now cut at a, almost. reverting to the very first line showed. However, it's clearly better than that line since W's ko threat haas lost points. Or I can take the ko as in the next diagram:

$$Bc continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 2 O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O O O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 1 O X X . X O b O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 4 X . . O . X X c . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O a . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Bc continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 2 O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O O O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 1 O X X . X O b O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 4 X . . O . X X c . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O a . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

W 2 may be a ko threat (it may not be. W retakes the ko. I now need a threat. a,b,c all look possible, and the position is probably quite good for B. But it's not clear cut. So I prefer the middle chunk of variations for me.

[drmwc]

$$Bcm185 B has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 1 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Bcm185 B has captured 3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 1 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It's complex.

I can reject MW's sequence

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O 6 . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O 9 O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O 8 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 7 O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 2 3 X . . . . X X 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 1 X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O 6 . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O 9 O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O 8 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 7 O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 2 3 X . . . . X X 0 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X 1 X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

4 above isn't totally daft. I could fight the ko after W connects at 5, or I could cut off a chunk of group as shown. W captures 3 stones, But my attack on the remaining group isn't too fierce, although my centre stones are reasonably strong. (There's some aji and W can aim at a ko after a, for example, but it's not an immediate concern.) this line may be playable for B.


Or I can accept MW's line.

$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O 5 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O 5 X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Caputring at 2 is an obvious thing to do. Following this, Mw has a couple of choices. He can save a small chunk of centre, and connect, as shown.

I then have different choice. a looksuseful, as it connect solidly, separates W and aims at a later attack, and possibly cut at b. But it's very slow and may be a dame. So I may play at 6 to expand my corner and avoid a dame connection.

W will invcade the top right corner soon after this.W has very little territory in this line. A count may be:

W: 5 point lower left (the whole group may become weak so he can't get much here now.)

10-15 points RHS.
20 upper left:
Total: 40 plus komi.

B's is a lot more undefined.
Definite territory is :
12 point in center.
8 point lower left.
Upper side: at least 20 points. Additionally, B has what I can nab in the remaining corners.
So this looks good for B.

So W may try to avoid this, for example by:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O a X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 5 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O a X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 3 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 5 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

W may choose not to save the small chunk of centre, and go for B's side stones instead. The follow up at a is big yose, but not urgent for either player. If I play this way, my initial thought is to play at 6 above and I should get a big corner. I will give up the side stones. This also seems quite playable to me.

So W may try this:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 6 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 7 X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 3 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . 8 . . , a . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 2 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X 6 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . 1 7 X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 3 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . 8 . . , a . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In this line, W give up all the senter to get the vital point at 5. There is a question as to whether 6 genuinely is my sente or not at this time - it may be too early. I then play at 8 or a, and again seem to have a good position.

I can also consider answering the ko thereat directly e.g.:

$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O a . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 3 X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 2 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O a . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 4 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 5 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O X X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 3 X . . 1 . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 2 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O b O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can now cut at a, almost. reverting to the very first line showed. However, it's clearly better than that line since W's ko threat haas lost points. Or I can take the ko as in the next diagram:

$$Bc continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 2 O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O O O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 1 O X X . X O b O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 4 X . . O . X X c . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O a . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc continuation
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 2 O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 3 X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O O O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O 1 O X X . X O b O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X 4 X . . O . X X c . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O a . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

W 2 may be a ko threat (it may not be. W retakes the ko. I now need a threat. a,b,c all look possible, and the position is probably quite good for B. But it's not clear cut. So I prefer the middle chunk of variations for me.

[The Intrepid]

The post was so good, it had to be made twice!

[Magicwand]

M9

[drmwc]

Sorry for the double post!

$$Bcm185 B has captured 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 3 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 1 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X . X X 2 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Bcm185 B has captured 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 3 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X O O 1 O . X O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X . X X 2 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

[Magicwand]

$$Bcm185 B has captured 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 3 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . 1 O 4 C O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X 2 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bcm185 B has captured 7
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 3 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . 1 O 4 C O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X 2 X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

[drmwc]

$$Bcm185 B has captured 7; W has captured 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X 3 O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . 1 O 4 C O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X 2 X O . O . . . |
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As planned. THe attachment feels more severe than 1 point to the right.

I'm willing to give up the stones on the side in some variations where I get a huge corner to compensate.

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This game looks unusual in the way it has many stones in the centre, and few around the corners/sides; not conforming to http://senseis.xmp.net/?PointPopularityByMoveNumber.