Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Sat May 18, 2013 11:07 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . W . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Uberdude · Post by **Uberdude** » Sun May 19, 2013 4:22 am

@hailthorn

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Tue May 21, 2013 6:23 pm

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The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:22 pm

Another tenuki from the main battle

. White should probably try to see if he can kill now. The plan would be, ideally, to reduce Black's eyespace to one eye on top and then play this move (other moves probably work as well, such as "a"):

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The question, however, is whether Black is alive on top already or not. White should, probably, first investigate this move, which threatens to cut Black group in two:

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Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Wed May 22, 2013 12:52 am

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:19 am

EDIT:

Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Wed May 22, 2013 11:10 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . W . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . c . b . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . B . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

right now I'm looking at A and B

a I can hane under his stones or try to separate this group and attack it.

b I can threaten to cut and then follow up around c to break the net and cut off his lone stone.

Then I can invade inside three space 4th line jump and suddenly his group is looking flat.

I think I'm about 15points behind so I need to play something desperate like this.

Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:21 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . . W . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

sorry for taking so long.

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Fri May 24, 2013 1:39 am

No worries. Take as much time as you need. I know I've been slow on previous moves! :salute:

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Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Fri May 24, 2013 2:13 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . W O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Sun May 26, 2013 10:30 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . B . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Mon May 27, 2013 4:29 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . W O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i'm scared.
So he's threatening to cut me while protecting the cut if he hane's my two stones.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . X 4 X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . 2 O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . 3 O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and i think his group is back to no eyes.
I'm not really sure how this will go.

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Mon May 27, 2013 7:00 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O B . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . W O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon May 27, 2013 8:17 pm

Unusedname · Post by **Unusedname** » Tue May 28, 2013 2:24 am

hmmm

seems like a strange response. it's not really sente. and i don't think it's two eyes.

my first instinct is play :w2:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Black: 0 White: 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . X . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X X . . . O O . . X . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . X X O . . . . O 2 3 . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X O O . . . X 5 6 X . . | $$ | . . . . . O X . X . . . . . 4 X 7 . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . . O . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . O . O , X . . O O , . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and see what happens from there.

but i'm drunk so i'll wait til the morning.

even though he played gote to save his group i still think i'm losing.

idk if just saving this two stones is enough.

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Game #212 hailthorn vs Unusedname (Game 1)

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