Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
-
uPWarrior
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 199
- Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:59 pm
- Rank: KGS 3 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
I thought you were seeking improvement, not victories. Are you surprised to find opponents that are able to beat you? Don't get so attached, review those 5 games and be happy you played 5 games in a day. Learn something new.
This is the 10th page so this advice might be late, but the biggest challenge will be keeping this rhythm when things get tough. Don't give up.
This is the 10th page so this advice might be late, but the biggest challenge will be keeping this rhythm when things get tough. Don't give up.
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
Thank you. Your post is probably the best thing related to go that happened to me today.
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
Today, KGS android client keep stopping and my opponents keep leaving even if I tell them in the beggining to wait for me if I'm disconnected.
I'm gonna be labeled as an escaper
I'm gonna be labeled as an escaper
- Toge
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 313
- Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 11:11 am
- Rank: KGS dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Toge
- Has thanked: 36 times
- Been thanked: 63 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
I watched in horror as you played move that accomplished broken knight's move relation on two separate occasions in your game against onga [8k]. These occasions were moves 24 and 150. I think your game would benefit from shape studying. Sensei's library has a page that helped me understand theory behind some basic shapes:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?LameDuGo
You won the game though, thanks to some ripped keima situations that you opponent created. Moves 51, 57, 65, 113, 115, 123 are examples of those.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?LameDuGo
You won the game though, thanks to some ripped keima situations that you opponent created. Moves 51, 57, 65, 113, 115, 123 are examples of those.
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
Toge wrote:I think your game would benefit from shape studying. Sensei's library has a page that helped me understand theory behind some basic shapes:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?LameDuGo
Thx, mate. I read this right now. Very, very usefull article.
Thank you, once again.
- moyoaji
- Lives in sente
- Posts: 773
- Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:53 pm
- Rank: KGS 1 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- Universal go server handle: moyoaji
- Location: Michigan, USA
- Has thanked: 143 times
- Been thanked: 218 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
I also noted in that game that at move 56 and 64 you responded to black breaking through your elephant's eye by pressing against him and forcing him out. I used to make this mistake a lot until I saw a video that explained the correct move.
If you want to contain your opponent in this situation, the keima is the move to do it.
This move is effectively a net. It is impossible for black to directly force his way out. There are moves black can do depending on the surrounding stones, so you should keima on the weaker side. For example, if the stone on the opposite side of the keima has no support this can work for getting an eye. However, black does not get out. White is still on the outside and black is still trapped on the inside.
Now, if you want to prevent black from getting an eye and force him to run to the center, this tesuji is the move. Without this vital point black cannot make eyes locally and must run to the center.
If you want to contain your opponent in this situation, the keima is the move to do it.
This move is effectively a net. It is impossible for black to directly force his way out. There are moves black can do depending on the surrounding stones, so you should keima on the weaker side. For example, if the stone on the opposite side of the keima has no support this can work for getting an eye. However, black does not get out. White is still on the outside and black is still trapped on the inside.
Now, if you want to prevent black from getting an eye and force him to run to the center, this tesuji is the move. Without this vital point black cannot make eyes locally and must run to the center.
"You have to walk before you can run. Black 1 was a walking move.
I blushed inwardly to recall the ignorant thoughts that had gone through
my mind before, when I had not realized the true worth of Black 1."
-Kageyama Toshiro on proper moves
I blushed inwardly to recall the ignorant thoughts that had gone through
my mind before, when I had not realized the true worth of Black 1."
-Kageyama Toshiro on proper moves
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
GOOOOOONGGG!!!!!
Vladimir is [7k]
For jts' statistics:
10k -> 9k, 22 games, 10 days
9k -> 8k, 97 games, 27 days
8k -> 7k, 113 games, 28 days
Bragging aside, I have to say that I'm not happy with my go. I think it's because of the famous truth: the more I know, the more I see how much I don't know. I should study more and not just play, play, play...
Nevermind, another stepping stone stepped.
Cheers
Vladimir is [7k]
For jts' statistics:
10k -> 9k, 22 games, 10 days
9k -> 8k, 97 games, 27 days
8k -> 7k, 113 games, 28 days
Bragging aside, I have to say that I'm not happy with my go. I think it's because of the famous truth: the more I know, the more I see how much I don't know. I should study more and not just play, play, play...
Nevermind, another stepping stone stepped.
Cheers
-
foeZ
- Dies in gote
- Posts: 38
- Joined: Tue May 28, 2013 7:14 am
- Rank: Relinquished
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: foeZ
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
don't fall into the same trap as I did. I had the same feeling as you when I was around 5kyu. I should study more and not just play play play. So I ended up studying 90% and playing 10%. In the end, I know how to explain things really well, but I play like a newbie 
I'm really far behind in experience for my level of play now. This is preventing me from permanently breaking through to dan levels.
I'm really far behind in experience for my level of play now. This is preventing me from permanently breaking through to dan levels.
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
Well, I think I'm in no such danger because I don't study at all:)
Thank you for the advice.
Thank you for the advice.
-
Bill Spight
- Honinbo
- Posts: 10905
- Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3651 times
- Been thanked: 3373 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
foeZ wrote:don't fall into the same trap as I did. I had the same feeling as you when I was around 5kyu. I should study more and not just play play play. So I ended up studying 90% and playing 10%. In the end, I know how to explain things really well, but I play like a newbie
I'm really far behind in experience for my level of play now. This is preventing me from permanently breaking through to dan levels.
Look on the bright side. If you had played more and studied less, you might have developed a lot of bad habits and not be able to explain anything.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
-
vpopovic
- Lives with ko
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 am
- Rank: KGS 7 kyu
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Vladimir
- Location: Belgrade, Serbia
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
For the first time in my life, today I won an even game vs 6k.
It's only because I killed his living corner at the beginning of yose, and that gives me a sour taste of win, but I'm also happy I managed to play evenly with 6k.
Only couple of months ago, it was not possible.
It's only because I killed his living corner at the beginning of yose, and that gives me a sour taste of win, but I'm also happy I managed to play evenly with 6k.
Only couple of months ago, it was not possible.
- Attachments
-
- pinkrose-Vladimir.sgf
- (4.36 KiB) Downloaded 424 times
- Toge
- Lives in gote
- Posts: 313
- Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 11:11 am
- Rank: KGS dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Toge
- Has thanked: 36 times
- Been thanked: 63 times
Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir
Sorry to bring in rain cloud: even game requires komi of 6,5 points. Your opponent got handicap of going second for no compensation. Well done anyway.
or a