Guess that strength 2!!!!!

[artboy598]

me: Hello, your host artboy598 here for another round of *points to crowed*

crowed: GUESS...THAT...STREEEEENGTH!!!!!!

me: You know the rules. This is based off of the KGS rating system and the closest one will be the winner! Please make a guess for each player and screen names will not be disclosed....HAVE FUN

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[daniel_the_smith]

w: 7k; b: 10k

[Lhet]

I'm thinking both are around 18k

[tj86430]

1k

[Tryphon]

Both 8k

[Magicwand]

they are both on the dot with josekies. at least stronger than me.
i will say

5D.

only reason why i didnt give any higher is that black didnt resign after he lost.
very strong players..

[Solomon]

Taking into account the fact this is blitz, their play nonetheless didn't impress me. However, it's quite clear that these are not kyu players if you look just briefly into their middle-game and the moves they play by intuition rather than reading (since there isn't much of that with those kind of time settings).

To be honest (and not to sound full of myself if it turns out to be higher-leveled than what I think it is), but it kind of looks like a game I would play, so I'm thinking these are low to mid-dan players.

I'll give them a bit more benefit of the doubt and say both players are KGS 5d.

[artboy598]

OOOOOH! We have guesses of a wide variety!!! I'll post the 'true ranks' in exactly 24 hours from my original post

[Jonas]

There joseki knowledge is very, I think this looks like a twoeye kgs 6d blitz-game or something similar.

[Harleqin]

It is a typical KGS middle to high dan blitz game. I put them at about '5d'.

[k43r]

white - 4d, black 3D

Great moves:
j17 - threating to close white in sente
and k18 as defense
j18 and m18 - these moves suprised me, great reading in byo!

[artboy598]

Harleqin, Araban,and Magicwand are the winners! Our winners will receive a live cheetah all the way from Africa!!!! Both players were in fact KGS 5d!

[Harleqin]

Yay! I hope it is young enough to tame. Now, how do I tell my wife?