#218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

Post by quietimes »

Right. Soooo. hmmmmm. I'm going to commit to a non-confident move. Jump in between, cause its a two limb tree to read for his next move and I like some of the outcomes.
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Meh, it has been a fun game regardless
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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My poorly-tuned intuition tells me that the following two points are vital here and that if I can play on either or both of them, white's going to have a hard time living. Do bear in mind, I'm working on two hours of sleep.

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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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White probably should have tried this:
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

Post by quietimes »

If hind sight is truly 20/20, I might actually be a very poor go player. :^) As it stands my goal is to make two eyes and bolt. I thought about being a little unorthodox again , with an F9 approach...briefly, trying to make a "flower pattern/trap but for the purpose making a two strong eye potential. However thought better of it quickly, reading black to walk out and put me in trouble.
Thought about a one point jump at F8 however that would leave him with a tiger jaw and a big foot in the door.

At this point I am just trying to keep black's interest before he jumps in @ C10 or the 7-8 file.

And what is meaning of the term aji?


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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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@quietimes
Aji is when there is a weakness left behind that it may be possible to exploit later on, like a cutting point or placement possibility. Sometimes, the aji alone isn't enough to exploit, but can be combined with other aji to make a workable invasion, cut, or other beneficial play. Literally, it comes from the japanese word for 'taste'.
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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Good idea to remove eyespace, but feels like a bit too much. Looks complicated as below:

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I would consider just the below:
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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So this is looking like an increasingly (in a logarithmic kind of way) bad situation and I have to decide when to cut and run. If it was an SDK i was playing I would likely bolt. If I was playing an SDK I would not likely get this far. So, here is how I see it. Either black will put a kill move on the board in the next couple moves or I will shake a mistake out of him. I can sacrifice two more stones cause if I don't make this bid, the game is pretty much done.

I will tap the black stone, again trying to do the unexpected here
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$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


To a DDK like myself and my opponent, I perceive there is a legitimate threat to connecting my group to J6 and away we go. Whether or not that is true is not what I'm selling. My guess is that black will do one of three things as follows.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 3 . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 5 . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . 6 X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now with this, imo the most likely variation, he will either invade to kill from the left and I will smoke F6 and do ugly things or defend F6 and I will jump out to the left and secure two eyes. Most likely because of blacks mostly consistent style of conservative play.

Here will be a kill shot with black having the opportunity to ladder out or group up and kill. In this I would walk out and connect without the two eyes.
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . 3 O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 6 . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X 5 . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Third and probably the second most likely variation is that black will drill up through the floor for a kill shot.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O 3 . 2 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here I would walk out the brief ladder and kill with two eyes (shhh, don't mock if I'm wrong. I didn't read it out closely-was an after thought)

or sub-variation 2
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O 4 . 2 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 5 . 6 . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and walk it out.

I could also be extremely optimistic or mistaken. Not ruling that out.

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[go]$$Bcm79
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . 9 . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . 0 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Skydyr

Thank you. I think there is aji in this corner however I don't know if that's the right use of the word.
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[go]$$Bcm81
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O 9 . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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So far so good, so something must be wrong.


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[go]$$Bcm89
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm89
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 3 . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #218 Quietimes vs Ikkyu

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I'm content with this so far. There is going to be some fighting shortly. See how it rolls out. I think this group will live. Once I have this, next move is to decide on two bigger reductions or prevent further reduction on the lower right corner.


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[go]$$Bcm89
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O X . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . . X O . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . , X . X O X O . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . X . . . X O . O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O X . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . O 3 . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . . O . . . X O O O X . |
$$ | . X X O O . O . . . . . O O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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