#224. graemy vs uriel

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I've been thinking for ages about what to do, and I figure'd I'd play here eventually
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I wonder what he's doing... I don't think it's a good move to move these stones, but maybe he's going to sacrifice them. But I don't know if I like that either... hmm.

Either way, playing at a seems like it's too passive, if he hanes at b, I plan on cutting at c.

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Moving out White's cutting stones isn't bad (although White should have approached the bottom-right corner, first). However, how one moves out these stones makes all the difference. The proper way would have been the following:
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"Play away from thickness", play away from sickness... :roll: I need to play light, and reduce black here. The last thing I want is to be sealed in here, and this gives me good shape if graemy tenukis.
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Okay, so I've caught his cutting stones. Now my group is thick and he has two floating stones right next to my thickness, maybe I can get an attack going.
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I think the last three exchanges have been good for me, and with high stones to run to I think I can more easily play this stone finally.
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Weird. I think of the defining feature of the upper right as "black influence", not "stones for W to run to". Shouldn't he expect something like this?

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hmm. I think this is dangerous for him.

Playing like this isn't good for him.
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I split him this way too.
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I need to settle now
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Joseki move seems good. I wonder what he's going for and what he's thinking.

I suspect that he's going for this. But, instead of following the pattern as below, he will try to take sente to get a or b. This seems like a dangerous strategy to me.
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . 8 . 7 O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . 3 . . 1 O B . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 0 9 . . . . . . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #224. graemy vs uriel

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[go]$$Wcm48 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . 1 O B . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The only move
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[go]$$Wcm48 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is the move to play in the chinese fuseki. His two stones may effect the weakness at a in a weird way. But, I will play like this anyway o:

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[go]$$Wcm48 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm50 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This should be my next move I think, since I can't let black so easily separate my groups.
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[go]$$Wcm50 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he's not careful here, he'll die. He has two groups and neither of them have a base yet and it seems like there's no easy way to connect them.
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[go]$$Wcm52 Captures: B=0 W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 B . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . O , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I have to fight here
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