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by Magicwand Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:46 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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by Kirby Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:39 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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by Magicwand Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:46 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
"The more we think we know about Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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by Dusk Eagle Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:39 pm
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by prokofiev Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:28 pm
To dusk eagle:
I think you can also capture locally:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Now black answers a with b and c with d. White can capture 2 but to no avail.
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by Dusk Eagle Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:03 pm
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
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by Kirby Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:56 pm
I'll try to be available when possible, but I might be away here and there.
I'm getting on a flight to Germany tomorrow, and then we'll be going to a few other countries in Europe.
I'm sure that they have Internet access there, though
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by Kirby Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:58 pm
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
be immersed
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by Magicwand Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:20 am
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
"The more we think we know about Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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by Zwergesel Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:11 am
prokofiev wrote: To dusk eagle:
I think you can also capture locally:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Now black answers a with b and c with d. White can capture 2 but to no avail.
White even has a ladder here, that runs into the marked stone!
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Also, if I read this correctly, the ladder works for black anyway:
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Black captures at 'a'.
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Zwergesel on Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
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by daniel_the_smith Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:16 am
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by entropi Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:13 am
k43r wrote:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0There is no hidden tesuji here
B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so
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by prokofiev Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:09 am
Dusk Eagle wrote: prokofiev:
Thanks, that was silly! It felt too easy but I missed the issue anyways.
In any case that wasn't meant as a correction to what you were saying (had it been correct), just trying the obvious to capture locally instead of the ladder. The ladder was fun to read, though!
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by Kirby Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:02 am
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
be immersed
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by Magicwand Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:10 am
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
"The more we think we know about Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
B can force some moves, but in the end he must come back to play honte Bc18. If in-game you see any gain in terms of aji from forcing these exchanges than you can do them now, but if not than there is no point in doing so