2nd Kuchinashi Tournament (4k-6k)

RedStick · Post by **RedStick** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:39 pm

Due to a rather hectic 10 days in my life Jedo and I have only been able to play one game so far. I played B and won by resignation. Game 2 is at noon est on Saturday.

Redundant · Post by **Redundant** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:20 pm

Game four of Redundant vs. Nikolas73 will be Saturday at 5pm Eastern. If there is a game 4, it will be 4pm Eastern.

Nikolas73 · Post by **Nikolas73** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:44 pm

Redundant wrote:Game four of Redundant vs. Nikolas73 will be Saturday at 5pm Eastern. If there is a game 4, it will be 4pm Eastern.

*If there is a game 5, it will be Sunday at 4pm Eastern.

Nikolas73 · Post by **Nikolas73** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:51 pm

Here is game 4, I was White and somehow managed to win by 9.5 points. Game 5 is tomorrow (Sunday) at 1pm Pacific/4pm Eastern.

Redundant · Post by **Redundant** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:07 pm

Here's game five of Redundant vs. Nikolas73. White (Redundant) won by resignation. I win the series 3-2.

RedStick · Post by **RedStick** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:16 pm

It looks like round 3 can begin. Apologies to SoDesuNe who will be playing the winner of Jedo and my series. The other pairings are as follows:

Primary:

Aphelion v. Redundant

Secondary:

Nikolas73 v. Padic

SoDesuNe v. (winner or Redstick v. Jedo)

Note: The loser of Aphelion v. Redundant will be eliminated and will not have a chance in the secondary bracket. The winner will get a bye for the following round when the challenger from the losers bracket will be chosen.

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:44 pm

Note: The loser of Aphelion v. Redundant will be eliminated and will not have a chance in the secondary bracket. The winner will get a bye for the following round when the challenger from the losers bracket will be chosen.

That doesn't make sense to me, we're both in the winner's bracket. It seems like this would actually give an advantage to lose in the earlier rounds so you get a easier opponent.

dfan · Post by **dfan** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:55 pm

Aphelion wrote:
Note: The loser of Aphelion v. Redundant will be eliminated and will not have a chance in the secondary bracket. The winner will get a bye for the following round when the challenger from the losers bracket will be chosen.

That doesn't make sense to me, we're both in the winner's bracket. It seems like this would actually give an advantage to lose in the earlier rounds so you get a easier opponent.

Agreed, the loser of Aphelion v Redundant should go straight to the finals of the losers bracket. Otherwise it's a double elimination tournament for everyone but one player. See the way that topazg set up the L19 title tournament.

RedStick · Post by **RedStick** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:19 am

Here is the language from the original tournament:

"The addition of the losers bracket came out of conversations with some of the participants who were concerned the tournament could only be 3 games long for some people. This guarantees at least 6 games for each participant and gives those who are knocked out a chance for ultimate redemption. It's true that the person who loses in the third round of the original bracket will be the only person denied a shot at the finals after only one loss but I think it reasons that the further along in the tournament the higher the stakes should be. Also, the alternatives (playing the winner of the losers bracket for a chance at a rematch with the one remaining undefeated player, or having the winner of the losers bracket play the loser of the finals for 2nd and 3rd) are less desirable. Once it's decided that a losers bracket should exist having its winner play for the championship against the only undefeated player seems the way to go."

The point here is that if the loser of aphelion v. redundant enters the losers bracket and then wins it will just lead to a rematch. And it would make the secondary bracket 2 rounds longer than the primary.

Also, it deserves noting that is the first tournament I was the one who lost in this round. I was the only one eliminated with a single loss.

Now, having the winner of this whole bracket playing MountainGo may change/complicate things. So let's open it up to a vote. It really doesn't matter to me. So all participants in the tournament feel free to PM me your votes (although when I report the results I'll have to use your name and how you voted)

Should there be a 5th round added to the secondary bracket so that the loser of Aphelion v. redundant can play the winner of the remaining 4 in the bracket? Or should the loser be eliminated and the winner get a trip to the challenging match?

Jedo · Post by **Jedo** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:32 pm

I won my last game with Redstick, giving us a 1-1 tie. The next game will be wednesday night at 8pm est.

Redundant · Post by **Redundant** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:36 pm

Aphelion and I will be playing game 1 Sunday at 3pm Eastern time.

Jedo · Post by **Jedo** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:27 pm

I won my last game with Redstick, giving me a 2-1 lead. I was white.
EDIT: Our next game will instead be monday night at 8pm est.

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:42 am

Due to personal life creeping in I will have to postpone my game 1 with Redundant. We will probably try to reschedule it for next week.

Jedo · Post by **Jedo** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:42 pm

I won my last game with Redstick, winning the series 3-1. SGF is below

So now I play SoDesuNe!

SoDesuNe · Post by **SoDesuNe** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:00 am

Jedo wrote:So now I play SoDesuNe!

Yay! : ) Sadly, I'm booked until Friday next week and on the weekend (3./4.) I possibly have one important match, too. But we figure something out!

Looking forward to it!

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