2013 LG cup

[macelee]

Dear David,

I did my homework before posting that in case I got the fact wrong. Please find the attached screen capture (as you can see mistakes have been made on your site and damage has been done via Google).

And I was just trying to help, did not meant to blame anyone. So I am surprised the way you reacted.

Best regards,

Mace

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One Chinese name should be Xia Chenkun (夏晨琨). The wrong name has been used everywhere, including 19x19, gogameguru and several online sgf 'collections'.

Also it would be nice to change the order of the 3rd and 4th pairs above to reflect the order of players in that photo.

Actually, I just checked, and we've always referred to this player as Xia Chenkun (http://gogameguru.com/tag/xia-chenkun/) and we don't have any record of any other name used for this player. I'd appreciate it if you didn't vaguely include us in your comment if you haven't checked. It wastes my time going back to check, among other things.

The one time when you you did leave a comment on our site about guoshou vs guoshuo, it was due to a simple typo, so don't just presuppose that we always get everything wrong.

[gogameguru]

I see, you're talking about the Go calendar? I thought you were talking about the articles on our site.

The calendar is maintained by a group of generous, volunteer contributors (including trout) who help to maintain it for the community. We, at Go Game Guru, are just part of a bigger team. We use the data from the calendar on our site, the same way you do at Go4Go, but I don't consider the calendar to be ours, because it's a joint effort, so I was confused about what you could be referring to.

One of us (from Go Game Guru) will log in once a week to update it, tidy things up, and correct any errors we find, but other people are logging in and updating it at all different times. Sometimes people make mistakes and nobody has the resources to pay someone to sit there and make it perfect.

The exact same thing was also displayed on Go4Go because of that, so the situation is no different:

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If you're really worried about this, how about joining us and helping to maintain it? That way you could fix any errors that concern you immediately.

The reason why I came back a bit sharply was that I always see people here criticizing trout when he posts these updates. People tell him that he doesn't format the date properly, or that he made some spelling mistake, or something else. Seriously? He posts a huge amount of news here that isn't available anywhere else in English and he doesn't expect anything in return, so I just think people could lay off with the criticism a little and be a little more grateful.

[macelee]

Hi David,

Just to repeat, I never meant to criticize anyone. Just try to help. I respect trout's work a lot and in the past very frequently participated the discussions in his posts and sometimes added values to his posts.

The Go4Go even calendar is generated automatically using the RSS feed from your site (with credit) so no wonder if contains the same error. In fact I will be very happy to contribute to that calendar - please let me know what I need to do.

May I also suggest that we all think twice before using any harsh words as those only serve to discourage people from voicing their ideas and making contributions to the community.

[gogameguru]

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[logan]

Thank-you each for all your hard and continued work: Trout, macelee (Go4Go), GoGameGuru & Affiliates.

[trout]

Quarter Final;

Chen Yaoye defeated Iyama Yuta by resign.
Zhou Ruiyang defeated Li Qincheng by resign.
Tuo Jiaxi defeated Takao Shinji by 4.5.
Li Zhe defeated Xia Chenkun by resign.


Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta


Zhou Ruiyang vs Li Qincheng



*****
Spelling for Chinese player is very difficult due to I am getting info from Korean site which is using Korean pronunciation. Sometime I copy name from http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/news.html where it has tournament view. But go news site probably uses Japanese style pronunciation for Chinese name(Most of time they uses correct spelling. And when I find incorrect spelling, I tried to correct it by many time guessing or consult with go4go for correct Chinese spelling(I know this site is run by Chinese.).).

[hailthorn011]

Shame Iyama Yuta lost. I was really pulling for him. He got decimated in that game (from my humble point of view). Hopefully Takao Shinji can pull off a victory.

[macelee]

*****
Spelling for Chinese player is very difficult due to I am getting info from Korean site which is using Korean pronunciation. Sometime I copy name from http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/news.html where it has tournament view. But go news site probably uses Japanese style pronunciation for Chinese name(Most of time they uses correct spelling. And when I find incorrect spelling, I tried to correct it by many time guessing or consult with go4go for correct Chinese spelling(I know this site is run by Chinese.).).

trout, thanks for you hard work doing us a good service here. No worry about the occasional mistakes. Even native Chinese speakers can sometimes get things wrong because some characters used in names are not commonly used elsewhere and other characters have multiple pronunciations, which all complicate things.

[cdybeijing]

I told you all that Li Zhe was cool to watch - what a unique style of play!

[macelee]

I told you all that Li Zhe was cool to watch - what a unique style of play!

Totally agree. It looks like he values things quite differently, therefore driving his game to very unique directions. Might have something to do with his degree study in philosophy.

[trout]

Semi Final - 11/13/13 9am (Korean time)

Pairing;
Chen Yaoye vs Zhou Ruiyang
Tuo Jiaxi vs Li Zhe


From left - Li Zhe, Tuo Jiaxi, Zhou Ruiyang and Chen Yaoye

[Uberdude]

So China will win every major international tournament this year.

[Joaz Banbeck]

[admin]
This thread was getting hijacked by an analysis of the Chen-Iyama game, so I split that off into its own thread. For that analysis, please see viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9359&p=152688#p152688

And thanks to Trout for starting and adding to this thread.
[/admin]

[xed_over]

since the game was played in this tournament, it seems the perfect place to discuss and analyze

[trout]

Semi Final;


Zhou Ruiyang defeated Chen Yaoye by 4.5.


Tuo Jiaxi defeated Li Zhe by resign.

Final - 2/10, 2/12 and 2/13/2014
Zhou Ruiyang vs Tuo Jiaxi