Heisenberg`s blog. One kuy improvement every other month.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:38 pm

Your Jan 9 game vs. hijiya.

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:01 am

Plan for today before playing a game.
5 tsusemegos. -Not done
Tesujis by James Davies -Done
Chinese Fuseki by Kato - one chapter - Done
Attack and Defence - Done
5 attacks

Have put together starpoint joseki variation

Enclosure invasion

Boidhre · Post by **Boidhre** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:33 am

You may want to look at this response, it's pretty common where that cut is annoying for Black.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------+ $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . . . | $$ . . . . X 1 . O O . | $$ , . . . . . X X O . | $$ . . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:41 am

I wish my opponent would not know that

Boidhre · Post by **Boidhre** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:49 am

MrHeisenberg wrote:I wish my opponent would not know that

Sure, but you want to be playing even against better opponents yes?

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:51 am

Boidhre wrote:
MrHeisenberg wrote:I wish my opponent would not know that

Sure, but you want to be playing even against better opponents yes?

It is nice to balance progress with fuzzy feeling of winning games.
How to attack this group?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c This is a label for the diagram. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . c . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:12 am

( Diagrams rotated for space.)

MrHeisenberg wrote:
$$B
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$$ -----------------------------------------

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[go]$$B $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . a . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . b O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
$$B Variation A
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . 8 5 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 6 7 . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$B Variation A $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 8 5 9 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 6 7 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Without a whole board, it may not be easy to decide how to attack W. However...
In the above variation, :b3:

keima is strange. A first feeling is hane outside:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation B $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

This is a natural follow-up to the cap of :b1:

, which tries to block W from going toward the center.

But if B tenuki with the keima :b3:

in your Variation A, then a first feeling for W, once again, is the outside hane :w4:

:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation C $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

In your Variation A, the :b5:

jump is also strange, because it leaves a weakness which W promptly exploits with the push :w6:

, and B ends up with 2 cuts at (x) and (y):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation A $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 x . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 6 7 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 . 2 1 y . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

If B simply replies with :b5:

, then W still has to deal with the cut (z):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation D $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . z . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Another first feeling is the inside hane :b1:

, W cuts with :w4:

, and a fight starts -- again, it depends on the whole board:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation E $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:41 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Variation F $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:49 am

Bill Spight wrote:
$$B Variation F
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$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . |
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$$ -----------------------------------------

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[go]$$B Variation F $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Ouch.

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:10 am

Keima is no good
Diagonal is better for W, still it is unfavorable.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c This is a label for the diagram. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 1 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . . 0 8 4 2 , . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Boidhre · Post by **Boidhre** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:21 am

Why

again?

Sorry, I mean is there some area that Black is trying to surround on the bottom?

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:26 am

I find knight`s move efficient in attacking

oren · Post by **oren** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:38 am

MrHeisenberg wrote:I find knight`s move efficient in attacking

The question is if you can attack which depends on the rest of the board.

mitsun · Post by **mitsun** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:30 pm

The knight move is good for attacking, but the attack must have some purpose. In general, the purpose is not to capture, but rather to force your opponent to run, allowing you to make thickness or territory in the process. In this case, the direction of play matters. For example, a few plausible attacks are shown below. On an empty board, it is hard to say which of these attacks is best. Even though attacking for its own sake may feel good, it is often best to leave a position like this alone, until a preferred direction can be chosen.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Knight move attack #1 to build lower side $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 1 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . 4 2 , . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 . 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Knight move attack #1 (variation) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 9 6 1 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . 5 4 2 , . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Knight move attack #2 to build center $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . 2 , . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 4 X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Knight move attack #2 (variation) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . 2 , . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 4 X 8 X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 6 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

MrHeisenberg · Post by **MrHeisenberg** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:42 pm

Nice thoughts.
I shall replay these moves

Terrible game.
Lesson - to never play in a hurry.

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