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kaimat
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by kaimat » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:59 pm
I was talking with a friend of mine the other day about how I was going backwards kyu-wise (used to feel like a confident 7kyu but dropped back to a strong 9/weak 8) but felt like my understanding of go was increasing by quite a bit. With this most recent win I got back up to 7kyu, but I'm hoping to get some good advice on improving my play.
This game was a little different than I usually play. I tend to favor territory on the sides over creating moyos in the middle, but this game I had to rely on large spaces to give me points.
I look forward to any comments anyone is willing to share.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2014/2/12/kaimat-PWNLORD666.sgf
I came to go through Kawabata and was introduced to a whole new world.
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by Boidhre » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:39 pm
was in the wrong direction, your opponent would have been in a fairly tough position had you blocked the other way after giving you so much with the approach to both 3-4s.
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by EdLee » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:17 am
Both B and W have many basics problems.
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by Bill Spight » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:18 am
A few remarks on the start and finish.
(;GM[1]SZ[19]ST[2]CA[UTF-8]FF[4]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]PW[kaimat]TM[1800.0]GN[ ]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]RU[Japanese]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]DT[2014-02-12]RE[W+2.50]PM[0]FG[259:]KM[6.5]BR[8k]WR[8k]C[PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: Hello, good game \:) ]PB[PWNLORD666] ;BL[1791.459]B[pd]C[kaimat \[8k\]\: thanks, you too ] ;WL[1795.489]W[dp] ;BL[1734.422]B[cd] ( ;WL[1783.257]W[ec]C[*** Gives Black a good move with a pincer. See variation.] ;BL[1728.15]B[dc]C[*** Not good.] ;WL[1781.18]W[ed] ;BL[1726.398]B[df] ;WL[1777.349]W[ic] ;BL[1721.902]B[pq] ( ;WL[1770.669]W[qo]C[*** See variation.] ;BL[1719.021]B[qp] ;WL[1768.639]W[po] ;BL[1714.522]B[np] ;WL[1767.339]W[qk] ;BL[1710.705]B[cn] ( ;WL[1760.994]W[cl]C[*** See variation.] ;BL[1701.346]B[cq] ;WL[1759.708]W[dq]C[*** As Boidhre says, wrong side. Divide and conquer.] ;BL[1698.162]B[cp] ;WL[1755.328]W[do] ;BL[1696.245]B[bn] ( ;WL[1751.489]W[ci]C[*** See variation.] ;BL[1688.141]B[ip] ( ;WL[1749.555]W[hq]C[*** Strengthens Black too much. See variation.] ;BL[1685.18]B[iq] ;WL[1748.436]W[hp] ;BL[1683.742]B[ho] ;WL[1744.722]W[ir]C[*** Good.] ;BL[1681.678]B[jr] ;WL[1743.298]W[hr] ;BL[1680.226]B[kq] ( ;WL[1741.637]W[io]C[*** Overplay. Black is too strong here. See variation. Then go to move 199.] ;BL[1677.051]B[jo] ;WL[1739.999]W[in] ;BL[1674.805]B[dn] ;WL[1736.978]W[en] ;BL[1672.542]B[dl] ;WL[1735.236]W[dk] ;BL[1670.403]B[em] ;WL[1733.075]W[el] ;BL[1667.467]B[eo] ;WL[1718.908]W[fn] ;BL[1664.301]B[dr] ;WL[1699.927]W[ep] ;BL[1658.443]B[co] ;WL[1656.841]W[nd] ;BL[1618.207]B[pf] ;WL[1651.475]W[qh] ;BL[1607.754]B[pc] ;WL[1644.22]W[nc] ;BL[1604.255]B[gc] ;WL[1641.261]W[gd] ;BL[1590.973]B[hd] ;WL[1634.519]W[hc] ;BL[1588.792]B[fd] ;WL[1631.342]W[ge] ;BL[1568.973]B[fe] ;WL[1626.632]W[fc] ;BL[1533.377]B[gf] ;WL[1612.745]W[he] ;BL[1508.429]B[ef] ;WL[1554.025]W[er] ;BL[1498.345]B[cr] ;WL[1532.649]W[dm] ;BL[1493.456]B[jn] ;WL[1530.099]W[im] ;BL[1491.455]B[jm] ;WL[1526.659]W[il] ;BL[1482.94]B[ro] ;WL[1524.76]W[rn] ;BL[1480.469]B[rp] ;WL[1519.725]W[qm] ;BL[1470.98]B[ld] ;WL[1500.324]W[lc] ;BL[1442.086]B[lf] ;WL[1493.246]W[nf] ;BL[1434.543]B[ph] ;WL[1488.034]W[qg] ;BL[1428.075]B[qf] ;WL[1486.824]W[pg] ;BL[1425.018]B[of] ;WL[1478.644]W[og] ;BL[1401.306]B[bg] ;WL[1431.632]W[no] ;BL[1390.528]B[op] ;WL[1426.751]W[oo] ;BL[1388.576]B[mo] ;WL[1425.558]W[mn] ;BL[1380.75]B[bk] ;WL[1412.094]W[bl] ;BL[1378.988]B[bi] ;WL[1410.351]W[cj] ;BL[1377.302]B[bj] ;WL[1379.105]W[ml] ;BL[1370.173]B[hf] ;WL[1376.538]W[ie] ;BL[1366.367]B[if] ;WL[1331.603]W[hj] ;BL[1338.876]B[je] ;WL[1323.898]W[id] ;BL[1326.878]B[fi] ;WL[1321.529]W[fj] ;BL[1319.775]B[ch] ;WL[1318.44]W[dh] ;BL[1316.878]B[dg] ;WL[1316.867]W[ei] ;BL[1315.132]B[eh] ;WL[1315.425]W[gi] ;BL[1313.004]B[fh] ;WL[1300.766]W[lo] ;BL[1309.17]B[mp] ;WL[1299.845]W[ln] ;BL[1303.571]B[es] ;WL[1294.53]W[fr] ;BL[1300.399]B[kc] ;WL[1282.195]W[kd] ;BL[1297.607]B[mc] ;WL[1280.42]W[md] ;BL[1293.445]B[lb] ;WL[1278.311]W[le] ;BL[1290.111]B[jd] ;WL[1276.815]W[lc] ;BL[1288.285]B[jc] ;WL[1269.525]W[gb] ;BL[1285.129]B[ld] ;WL[1265.76]W[rf] ;BL[1282.458]B[re] ;WL[1256.552]W[mf] ;BL[1274.448]B[ke] ;WL[1234.969]W[nh] ;BL[1259.806]B[rg] ;WL[1231.227]W[rh] ;BL[1257.826]B[sf] ;WL[1212.054]W[jl] ;BL[1218.463]B[lp] ;WL[1184.344]W[lg] ;BL[1215.391]B[me] ;WL[1182.192]W[ne] ;BL[1194.643]B[nb] ;WL[1150.257]W[kg] ;BL[1183.148]B[ih] ;WL[1148.23]W[ji] ;BL[1150.092]B[ck] ;WL[1124.476]W[dj] ;BL[1113.409]B[km] ;WL[1106.145]W[kl] ;BL[1111.329]B[lm] ;WL[1097.18]W[ll] ;BL[1108.709]B[mm] ;WL[1096.115]W[nm] ;BL[1065.829]B[eb] ;WL[1094.394]W[fb] ;BL[1023.141]B[db] ;WL[1089.775]W[de] ;BL[1019.803]B[ce] ;WL[1086.016]W[ee] ;BL[1018.357]B[ff] ;WL[1084.562]W[jb] ;BL[1016.484]B[kb] ;WL[1083.298]W[ja] ;BL[1014.937]B[ka] ;WL[1081.624]W[ib] ;BL[1010.182]B[jh] ;WL[1079.878]W[kh] ;BL[1002.156]B[ii] ;WL[1078.245]W[ij] ;BL[998.081]B[hh] ;WL[1075.176]W[gh] ;BL[996.459]B[gg] ;WL[1071.465]W[le] ;BL[987.609]B[kf] ;WL[1065.245]W[jg] ;BL[970.477]B[ig] ;WL[1043.407]W[fs] ;BL[964.003]B[ds] ;WL[1030.023]W[oc] ;BL[962.149]B[ob] ;WL[1027.672]W[oe] ;BL[960.305]B[pe] ;WL[1015.024]W[ki] ;BL[954.102]B[hi] ;WL[1012.254]W[gj] ;BL[935.738]B[cm] ;WL[1010.388]W[dl] ;BL[919.312]B[is] ;WL[1008.428]W[hs] ;BL[913.99]B[js] ;WL[1006.512]W[ko] ;BL[893.868]B[kp] ;WL[994.106]W[ak] ;BL[891.399]B[aj] ;WL[992.693]W[al] ;BL[866.019]B[sh] ;WL[990.764]W[si] ;BL[863.513]B[sg] ;WL[988.638]W[ri] ;BL[825.088]B[an] ;WL[985.552]W[lr] ( ;BL[799.972]B[kr]C[*** Game losing play. See variation.] ;WL[981.892]W[pp] ;BL[797.23]B[or] ( ;WL[975.423]W[so]C[*** Gains one point. But the reverse sent is bigger. See variation.] ( ;BL[763.254]B[sq]C[*** Loses one point locally, aside from not taking the sente ko. See variation.] ;WL[964.479]W[sn] ;BL[757.76]B[sp] ;WL[963.189]W[sr] ;BL[740.173]B[qq] ;WL[946.922]W[di]C[*** Gains 1 2/3 points. Reverse sente.] ( ;BL[724.797]B[fa]C[*** Gains one point. See variation.] ;WL[943.571]W[ga] ;BL[722.783]B[ea] ;WL[942.125]W[dd] ( ;BL[718.721]B[cc]C[*** Loss of one point, aside from not taking the ko. Although it looks like White wins the ko, anyway. See variation.] ;WL[889.322]W[me] ;BL[670.742]B[od] ;WL[857.885]W[tt] ;TW[ej][ek:pk][em:hm][eo:ho][eq:gq][fl:hl][fp:gp][gc][gn:hn][gr:gs][ha:ia][hb][hd][jj:sj][lh:mh][li:qi][mg:ng][nl:sl][oh:ph][om:pm][on:qn][rk:sk][rm:sm]BL[670.741]B[tt]TB[aa:da][ab:cb][ac:be][af:cf][ag][ah:bh][ai][ao:br][as:cs][cg][eg:fg][hg][jq][kd][ks:ss][la:sa][lc][lq:oq][lr:nr][mb][pb:sb][pr:sr][qc:sd][qe][rf][rq][se]C[kaimat \[8k\]\: wow PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: hahaha kaimat \[8k\]\: i thought you had me beat kaimat \[8k\]\: great game PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: komi PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: makes the difference PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: yep nice one dude kaimat \[7k\]\: thanks again PWNLORD666 \[8k\]\: no problem ] ) ( ;W[cc]C[*** Does not work.] ;B[cb] ;W[bc] ;B[bb] ;W[cf] ;B[bd] ) ) ( ;W[ea] ;B[da] ;W[fa]C[*** A two point swing. White gains one point instead of Black gaining one point.] ) ) ( ;B[sp] ;W[sn] ;B[di] ;W[qq]C[*** Ko threats only.] ;B[rq] ;W[dh] ;B[fp] ;W[fo] ;B[di] ;W[qr] ;B[rr] ;W[dh] ;B[eq] ;W[fq] ;B[di] ;W[pr] ;B[oq] ;W[dh] ;B[nn] ;W[on] ;B[di] ;W[jp] ;B[jq] ;W[dh] ;B[fa] ;W[ga] ;B[di] ;W[rs] ;B[ps] ;W[dh] ;B[ea] ;W[di]C[*** White wins the ko to win by 0.5.] ; ) ) ( ;W[di]C[*** Gains 1 2/3 points.] ;B[sn] ;W[sm] ;B[so] ;W[ea] ;B[da] ;W[fa]C[*** White wins the ko to win by 0.5.] ) ) ( ;B[di] ;W[pp] ;B[qq] ;W[dh] ;B[sn] ;W[sm] ;B[di] ;W[jp] ;B[jq] ;W[dh] ;B[so] ;W[ea] ;B[da] ;W[fa] ;B[di] ;W[bh] ;B[ah] ;W[dh] ;B[me] ;W[di]C[*** White cannot win both kos.] ;B[le] ;W[jf] ;B[dd] ;W[nn] ;B[jp] ;W[bm] ;B[od] ;W[kn] ;TW[ej][ek:pk][em:hm][eo:ho][eq:gq][fl:hl][fp:gp][ga:ia][gc][gn:hn][gr:gs][hb][hd][jj:sj][lh:mh][li:qi][mg:ng][nl:sl][oh:ph][om:pm][on:qn][rk:sk][rm]B[am]TB[aa:cc][ad:be][af:cf][ag][ai][ao:br][as:cs][bh][cg][eg:fg][hg][kd][kr:ss][la:sa][lc][lq:oq][mb][pb:sb][qc:sd][qe][rf][rq:sq][se][sp]C[*** Black wins by 1.5] ) ) ( ;W[go] ) ) ( ;W[gq] ) ) ( ;W[dn]C[*** A big point for Black, too.] ) ) ( ;W[ck]C[*** Leaves a two space extension towards the top left corner.] ) ) ( ;W[qn]C[*** A pincer would not be severe against this move.] ) ) ( ;W[qp]C[*** Back to even.] ) )
Black lost 4 points in the last 16 moves. Lucky you!
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by LuckyJim » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:47 am
I like Bill's comments about pincers, they are so easy to overlook.
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by LarryHH » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:06 am
Kaimat, W4, play in the open corner first, then shimaris and kakaris. W22 and W24, an enclosure of the lower left corner with a knight's move, kogeima, would be good to build outside influence. W24 helps black build a territory 10 lines wide while black's is 3 lines wide. Black has sente too much because white passively answers him too often. Try a counter attack elsewhere on the board. Visualize a good follow-up move and estimate the value or cost. Moves with a big follow-up move will be answered so you can insert this pair of moves, the counter attack and the defense move within the earlier sequence of moves. W124 captures a stone to live, in gote. Read out carefully. Was this capture urgent ? Pushing down to reduce the upper right would be worth some points. Read and count! W156, atari, uses up a ko threat. Don't play a move just because the opponent will answer. Look for bigger moves. Save some ko threats in case of a ko fight so you might win it. W158, small, gote. W198? Look harder for sente and reverse sente moves that do gain points or threaten to gain points. Some humble advice.