Time for me to put my foot in my mouth again.
I was trying to stay out of that for a while, but I am in a grumpy mood tonight, so I just let it fly.
xDragon wrote:i dont know if you realize how annoying it gets whenever bigdoug does someting inappropriate and abuses his position of power, and i provide proof of it, many of you will blindly defend and assume that i did something wrong. maybe i did something wrong a long time ago but that doesnt mean that doug should be allowed to just create reasons to ban me. why would i lie about any of it? chat logs are kept, any admin could research it and find that at least in any of these scenarios, it went exactly as described
xDragon wrote:well for years i left the stuff he did to me undocumented
There are basically two possibilities here:
1. for years you have been for some reason unjustly singled out by one specific admin (hard to believe, but certainly possible)
2. for years your behavior was such that this specific admin (or admins in general) kept and eye on you an sometimes intervened (much more likely)
In either case, this does not mean much wrt. the one single occurrence you describe. But it opens up a question - which is it?
You seem to be surprised that the community does not rally behind you and your plight and like one man condemn the bad BigDoug. Well, let me tell you why this might be. In general, the KGS community is divided into two main categories, and this carries on to the discussions here as well.
The first category is the vast majority of people who use KGS a lot and don't have any persistent problems with admins, maybe a run-in here and there which is usually well explained and prevented in future. Such people realize that reasonable behavior is treated in a reasonable way, and an occasional slip of an overworked or pms-ing admin is something which can be easily avoided.
The second category is the people who feel they are being picked on by the power-hungry admins who rejoice in treating people like pest just to bolster their overgrown egos. Many of those people don't play on KGS anymore, there are other options, and so they wisely decided KGS is not for them. Or they whine and whine and whine, until everybody is tired of that.
Most of the members of the first category might think that when somebody is treated like a pest, it might be that he behaves like one. And first-hand observation usually confirms such suspicions, no matter how offended the pest is and how much he screams about injustice. And a lot of the subsequent behavior on L19 also often confirms that. Your are not the first to do what you do, and not the last for sure. And KGS or BigDoug is not the only target. Most of the time what I say above proved true in the long run.
Now, I have no clue if you are a pest or not, I am not judging, althought I certainly have my opinion, as usual. Maybe you are the one-in-a-million who gets genuinely abused. But long experience and being around both people and servers for decades, has taught me that such chance is very small, certainly not enough to just rally behind you based on a single incident (of which I still don't get what your problem was and why all the fuss, to be honest.)
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Personally, I see it like that:
You have been warned by an admin, you think unjustly. As a result you started mouthing off. As a result of this mouthing off, you got banned. As the result of that banning, you started mouthing off here. As the result of your mouthing off here, we have this thread and you wonder why people are not more sympathetic.
Generally speaking - if you have had trouble with admins for years, chances are your behavior was bad for years, and what's more - you never learned from any of that.
I have been around KGS and its admins a long long time, since the very beginning of the server, as a matter of fact. And while I have had two (count them - TWO, as in 1,2) run-ins with the admins in all these years, I tried to be polite, do what I was told and as a result it never escalated. I grew more experienced about what behavior is welcome and what is not, for whatever reason (does not really matter if I agreed with it or not) and it served me well. The same goes for all the other server or service I have ever used - except for one, and it was a good lesson for me, that one. As a matter of fact, I try to behave like that in most life situations, on the web and off the web.
Although I guess I could be mouthing off, and complaining, and accusing, and yelling about conspiracies and abusive jerks and whatnot. But where would that leave me? Even more grumpy and bitter than I am. So for me, its not worth it. Unless it is really bad, which does not seem to be the case with KGS and its admins, an occasional icky episode notwithstanding.
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Now about you. And I think this is important part of this post:
What happened? An admin warned you about something and told you to do something. Right or wrong, just or not, you would have a good case if you did as yo were told, and then presented the case to other admins (or here) asking for clarifications or whatever. This way you show the willingness to at least try to resolve the issue peacefully. Instead - you mouthed off, escalated the situation, and you keep escalating it even more here (for what?) By behaving like that, you completely undermining your own point in my eyes, and making people side with the admins instead of offering you their support. Except for the few who were already disgruntled and will jump on any and each KGS admin bashing - but they do it because of their own experiences and grievances and perceived injustices, not because of what you say.If you really think that situation is that bad, and that you can really change it by doing what you do (mouthing off all over the place and annoying the hell out of people and stirring up the pot already messed up) - then go ahead, knock yourself out. But as long as most people can use KGS without any problem, and most people are not being bullied by big bad admins, you will have hard time being seen as more than a whiner and trouble-maker. Other than by the selected few who took your path before, got nowhere, and now keep carrying grudges for years, jumping on each and every bandwagon of KGS/admin bashing.
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Bottom line:
Be polite, show respect (even when you think it is not deserved), and stay cool, and you'll be fine. Remember - admins don't just deal with you, they have to listen to mouthing off all the time, you are just a drop in the ocean of the grief they have to wade through. And every now and then it might be that one of them behaves improperly, no big deal. Even paid professionals are not always perfect. Shrug it off, say "than you" and move on - let it be the lesson to you. And if it is really too mean for you, go play somewhere else, no biggie, there are other places. This policy served me for years very successfully. Try it.
