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Re: Petty Complaints and Anxieties

Post by RBerenguel »

Abyssinica wrote:
wineandgolover wrote:DarWIN thinks people are hopeless. I'd say the same for this thread. He sucked good people into spending their good time and effort to help him, then rewarded them with insults and self-pity.

Three pages? Really?


You mean people don't set their posts per page to 40? :roll:


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[quote="Bantari"][/quote]

So you think I'm rude and treat others with disrespect? Just because I said the human species was hopeless? That's not rude. That's not disrespect. That's the truth. I am well aware that this is not a psychiatric forum. Me thinking that doesn't mean I have issues it means I am aware of war, dishonesty, stupidity, corruption, and oppression, and that I have been the victim of all. And don't bring up the holocaust with me, not only because any holocaust survivor you could possibly have known would be ridiculously ancient, but because that just proves my point. Bringing up an example of murder to prove people aren't hopeless is ridiculous. I'm not asking you to defend yourselves. Because if other's are going to treat me with disrespect constantly, then I have no obligation to be a nice person. If I was mean it was only because I have been treated cruelly for years, patiently putting up with it, till a straw will finally break that camel's back, and I will show you just how cruel I can be.

Ha ha, I'm just kidding, but apparently I don't get along with you types. I'll never play this game again. It annoys me anyway, because you can put a stone anywhere on the board if not for rumors of good plays.
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darWIN to judicata wrote:I'm sorry you're so stupid
darWIN wrote:apparently I don't get along with you types. I'll never play this game again.
darWIN wrote:He wasn't trying to help me out he was being a dick, as have you all, you're right, I shouldn't post on this forum, and it actually really isn't like me to be a mean person, but I thought you were all very rude and unhelpful and I'll never post here again.

xed_over wrote:I think Ed has just missed the point of your story.
I didn't miss anything.
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darWIN wrote:So you think I'm rude and treat others with disrespect?

Calling people "stupid" when they are trying to help you out, just because they say something which does not align with your own self-image is rude and disrespectful.

darWIN wrote:Just because I said the human species was hopeless? That's not rude. That's not disrespect. That's the truth.

This is not "truth", this is just your opinion. Which you are certainly entitled to. But if this opinion then colors how you treat individuals who try to have a polite conversation with you, this is rude. There is a difference between saying "I think humanity is hopeless" and expecting people to have to prove to you they are not worthless and until they do you treat them as such. Very rude.

So my previous statement stands: Get Over Yourself.
Or seek help beyond this forum.
I can't help anymore.
Bye.
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This thread is a perfect example of why you shouldn't feed the troll.
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He wasn't trying to help me out he was being a dick, as have you all, you're right, I shouldn't post on this forum, and it actually really isn't like me to be a mean person, but I thought you were all very rude and unhelpful and I'll never post here again.
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paK0 wrote:This thread is a perfect example of why you shouldn't feed the troll.


I will have to second this. I love these forums and the help I have received from the good folks here. Lots of good info/advice was imparted here and was only met with cynicism and rude behavior.

However, to the OP, I thought your name sounded familiar so I took the liberty to look up a few of your older posts and found similar behavior. Such as this:

now I remember why I called you guys nerds back when I played basketball, before I got epilepsy and had to quit. It's because you're a bunch of pompous people who think you're the smartest when all you're doing is playing a game. A game is played for fun, and messing up the beautiful pattern created and counting the intersections isn't fun, destroying my opponent is. I'm not breaking the rules.


I play online and at a club. I got promoted recently to a higher ranking online. At the club sometimes I win and sometimes I lose, and there are some really obnoxious people like on this forum who tell me I have no strategy


There are a few more example I could extrapolate from your previous posts but I think this is enough. Its the same behavior I see in this one. People give you advice, you don't take it, get butt hurt by there comments and then flame them for it.
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darWIN wrote:He wasn't trying to help me out he was being a dick, as have you all, you're right, I shouldn't post on this forum, and it actually really isn't like me to be a mean person, but I thought you were all very rude and unhelpful and I'll never post here again.



Again, see your previous posts in the forum. Mean, rude, ect. Falling on deaf ears here bub.
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Rowen wrote:
Again, see your previous posts in the forum. Mean, rude, ect. Falling on deaf ears here bub.



I just had a seizure. My shoulder and ankle hurts and I'm on lots of pharmaceutical drugs and treated by contempt by society because of this, something I cannot control. This is not an exaggeration. This is a fact of my life.

No, you've got it all wrong. I tried to reach out to you, and some of you just treated me with contempt. If I have to deal with the contempt of society there's no way that I'm going to deal with yours.

However if you think that I am a rude, mean, and disrespectful person then there's nothing I can do about it now. I feel bad though. Because I didn't try to. Maybe I wasn't careful enough.


I'm sorry if you thought I was obnoxious.
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darWIN wrote: I tried to reach out to you, and some of you just treated me with contempt.


Nobody actually treated you with any contempt until you were actively rude.
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Post by often »

Let's take this apart:

Well, my usual complaint remains, ... , the absurd elitism of the players. Perhaps I am the elitist here, for not taking someone's amazing talent seriously enough.
I'm not sure where this complaint is coming from with examples in this first post.

However, I have always felt that there was a certain nightmare quality of taking something fun, and then exalting it to the point where it is no longer fun anymore. [...] I suppose these anxieties come from being told that I was fairly good at the game. I just started playing a lot though, maybe a year ago. I feel like I don't understand the game at all.
So you were told you were very good at the game, but now you are running into issues learning the game. Sounds like a common problem. If your issue is progression then start with a teacher, getting teaching games, or some books.

Even when I win I don't quite understand the strategy that I used, because I play intuitively and quickly. I also don't know if it was the right strategy, or what strategy is even going on.
So you don't spend enough time figuring out the moves, and then you wonder why you played moves that you don't understand.


All in all I think you're answering your own problems in this post.
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Please, can everybody be nice to each other...

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[interlude]
Here is how I see the game of go...

Both players plays togther, against the game go, to find his secret.

That help me not worring about winning or loosing. I just want to do my best with the other player.
of course the game of go will not deliver his secret easily, so we will have to fight to progress in our quest...

I now understand that when I play a move, the only thing that is important is that the move as a meaning, I can loose something if I get something in return...
This is the same for the game... I can loose it if I get something in return...
[/interlude]
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