Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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吴清源, 祝您生日快乐!
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Have replayed two games so far, also first time I used my slate and shell stones. First two games of his collected games, more to come after a little programming work.

First: As usual, problems with keeping the book open by my side
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Second: Hey, this works to keep it open!
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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First: As usual, problems with keeping the book open by my side


Tut tut. If you are going to be devoted to the man you should at least work on acquiring wonky fingers like him. Shaving your head is another option.
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John Fairbairn wrote:
First: As usual, problems with keeping the book open by my side


Tut tut. If you are going to be devoted to the man you should at least work on acquiring wonky fingers like him. Shaving your head is another option.


I've been having elbow issues due to too much computer usage (I've been working standing up for the past two weeks, with short pauses every 5 minutes and long pauses every 15), and keeping a book open would stress them way too much. If I didn't have a wonky head I'd consider shaving it, way too hot here in Spain to have any kind of hair :/
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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I replayed the 4-player game detailed in The Go Consultants, by John Fairbairn and T. Mark Hall. It was Go Seigen and Kitani Minoru against their teachers Suzuki Tamejiro and Segoe Kensaku.
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Two more, games 3 and 4 in his collected games.

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RBerenguel wrote:Two more, games 3 and 4 in his collected games.

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Those boards look vertical. Did you glue the stones on! :shock:
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DrStraw wrote:
RBerenguel wrote:Two more, games 3 and 4 in his collected games.

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Those boards look vertical. Did you glue the stones on! :shock:


:D probably ended up rotated, since I took the pictures with my iPad. The stones are thin slate and shell and the board is 6cm wood. No glue (well, I guess the pieces of the board are glued, though)
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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I played through the first game of his jubango with Kitani. His may have been the first of his games I fully played through--I'd been led to believe that his play was rather opaque for weaker players such as myself. This wasn't the case at all! The style was certainly beyond my ability to imitate (though that could be said for any professional), but his moves didn't seem hard too understand, just hard to execute.

Here are a few of my thoughts on the game (I couldn't find the sgf online without a login, so I haven't included it here at the moment.):
  • It is incredibly hard to take sente from Go Seigen, especially in the opening. Every move he played was light. In particular, he approached the corners from a little farther than I am used to seeing. As a result, he didn't need to spend a second move in that corner before moving elsewhere.
  • After the first 50 moves, Kitani had two strong corner groups and Go had stones spread all around the board in such a way that any invasion/reduction was sure to bring him profit. Kitani handled it wonderfully, of course, but it was really interesting to see the contrast in strategies.
  • Ko fights are always one of my favorite parts of professional games, and this was no exception. Go very clearly knew what he wanted when he initiated a Ko fight. I smiled when I saw him grow the size of a ko by crawling along the first line at move 130. It was an amusing sequence.
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I've been very busy today and didn't have time to play through a whole game. So I decided to play jsut 100 moves: the first move from his first game, the second move from his second game, the third move from his third game, ....

It led to one weird game. No wonder I cannot understand pro games.
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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DrStraw wrote:Maybe we could find 100 new players who are each willing to lose their first 100 games on his birthday.
DrStraw wrote:Those boards look vertical. Did you glue the stones on! :shock:
DrStraw wrote:I've been very busy today and didn't have time to play through a whole game. So I decided to play jsut 100 moves: the first move from his first game, the second move from his second game, the third move from his third game, ....

It led to one weird game. No wonder I cannot understand pro games.

Maybe we can expect 100 jokes from you before the thread's over.
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Re: Happy Birthday Go Seigen

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Few pictures from his birthday.......

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With family and students.

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Rui giving birthday gift.

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Rin Kaiho showing his old picture which was taken when he went to japan.

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With Rui and Zhang(husband).

These picture are from Oro......
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I would never have recognized Rin Kaiho...
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So sad to see him looking frail and wheelchair-bound. But good to see him still alive nevertheless. Is he the first top player to reach the age of 100?
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
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