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emeraldemon
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by emeraldemon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:16 am
Just a nice little problem that came up in my game yesterday. What is the status of the white group?
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by skydyr » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:17 am
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by emeraldemon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:35 pm
@skydyr
Yes, I think that's right. During the game I misread and thought black could get a ko. I think maybe this is the most interesting line:
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by Bill Spight » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:39 pm
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If Black is unaware of
,
,
, and
, he might think that
would kill.
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by Marcus » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:09 pm
Thanks, Bill, I missed that line.
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by paK0 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:02 am
Bill Spight wrote:
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$$ ----------------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . 3 4 5 |
$$ . . . . . . X X 2 1 0 |
$$ . . . . . . O X O O 6 |
$$ . , . X X X X O . O . |
$$ . . X . O O O O 8 O 9 |
$$ . . . X . . . X O 7 . |
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If Black is unaware of
,
,
, and
, he might think that
would kill.
If one cannot see that white can live he might assume that white is dead
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by emeraldemon » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:21 am
Well in the game I played the block at R18, which was ok anyway since I was winning and it makes some points (Bill: how many points? 4 or so?), but afterwards I realized I could've played elsewhere.