Life in 19x19 Title Tournament, Round 1 and 2 draws

[Li Kao]

Wow you played almost like a dan, Loons

[karaklis]

If he doesn't turn up by Monday, and you were next on the list (which I can't seem to find!), you can take his place to play Aphelion

It was not a list that was written down in form of a list, just a few names in some spread postings. Actually I gave my slot to Aphelion for this tournament, so it's funny that his opponent has probably disappeared and gives me the opportunity to play him again.

@Aphelion: If your opponent doesn't show up until Monday evening, I will contact you on Tuesday (or you can contact me if you like).

I hope this time I will do better than in the Kuchinashi series

[SoDesuNe]

Rubin427 and me are most likely playing on Sunday at 18pm UTC+1 dst (10am UTC-7).

[rubin427]

Here is the match between SoDesuNe and myself.

What can I say about this game? I wish I had such an opponent at the local go club, I would learn a lot.

Thank you for the match, SoDesuNe.

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[rubin427]PB[SoDesuNe]WR[6k]BR[5k]DT[2010-06-20]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: Good game!
rubin427 [6k]: Hello, enjoy the match.
]RE[B+56.50]
;B[qd]BL[2384.493]C[rubin427 [6k]: This game is a round 2 tournament game for the Life in 19x19 title tournament.
]
;W[dq]WL[2375.359]
;B[pq]BL[2366.084]
;W[cd]WL[2362.863]
;B[oc]BL[2361.488]
;W[qk]WL[2343.986]
;B[qn]BL[2319.788]
;W[qh]WL[2337.41]
;B[ed]BL[2300.706]
;W[ec]WL[2327.635]
;B[fc]BL[2299.12]
;W[dc]WL[2323.017]
;B[fd]BL[2298.194]
;W[cf]WL[2308.367]
;B[jc]BL[2296.331]
;W[jq]WL[2297.947]C[Nakamura [7k]: Hey goat, Loki
goatsunday [8k]: howdy
goatsunday [8k]: all stones low
Nakamura [7k]: I don't know about black's extra long shimari. Seems like those come back to haunt later more often than not.
Loki [7k?]: I have no idea about openings
nightgoat [3d?]: ezxra lng shimari is fine
goatsunday [8k]: it does have a weakness, but what doesn't : )
Nakamura [7k]: True.
goatsunday [8k]: m3 or left side: what's bigger?
Nakamura [7k]: I'm tempted to say C8 for black, but I don't know
goatsunday [8k]: c8 lets b make shimari
goatsunday [8k]: I mean w
goatsunday [8k]: and in sente
]
;B[do]BL[1908.422]C[Nakamura [7k]: High approach would've been my other thought
]
;W[dl]WL[2180.717]C[Nakamura [7k]: Magic sword!
]
;B[gp]BL[1788.896]
;W[cn]WL[2126.655]C[nightgoat [3d?]: lol
]
;B[co]BL[1732.618]
;W[ep]WL[2121.411]
;B[eo]BL[1730.205]
;W[fp]WL[2120.614]
;B[fo]BL[1722.28]
;W[go]WL[2118.538]C[Nakamura [7k]: Ahhh.
]
;B[gq]BL[1606.391]
;W[bp]WL[2033.849]C[Loki [7k?]: interesting
Loki [7k?]: that sword looks rather dull to me
]
;B[cq]BL[1415.708]
;W[cp]WL[2008.701]
;B[dp]BL[1414.405]
;W[eq]WL[2007.097]
;B[cr]BL[1391.049]
;W[bo]WL[1917.423]
;B[er]BL[1381.848]
;W[fn]WL[1910.296]
;B[fq]BL[1368.237]
;W[en]WL[1885.306]
;B[dr]BL[1365.314]
;W[mq]WL[1819.447]
;B[cj]BL[1048.783]
;W[ck]WL[1802.148]
;B[ej]BL[1046.758]
;W[dj]WL[1794.442]
;B[di]BL[1045.061]
;W[dk]WL[1793.163]
;B[eh]BL[984.17]
;W[ef]WL[1741.886]
;B[gj]BL[940.465]
;W[qp]WL[1636.533]
;B[pp]BL[885.186]
;W[qo]WL[1633.354]
;B[po]BL[883.532]
;W[rn]WL[1632.078]
;B[qq]BL[880.255]
;W[qm]WL[1620.575]
;B[pn]BL[873.893]
;W[rp]WL[1618.438]
;B[mo]BL[859.816]
;W[or]WL[1616.339]
;B[pr]BL[749.585]
;W[rq]WL[1607.555]
;B[oq]BL[727.758]
;W[nr]WL[1602.611]
;B[nq]BL[697.916]
;W[mp]WL[1581.023]
;B[lr]BL[677.014]
;W[mr]WL[1573.91]
;B[kq]BL[666.164]
;W[kp]WL[1558.764]
;B[jr]BL[636.164]
;W[lo]WL[1534.877]
;B[mn]BL[612.618]
;W[lq]WL[1532.22]
;B[kr]BL[609.992]
;W[iq]WL[1510.18]
;B[ir]BL[608.494]
;W[kn]WL[1439.928]
;B[ml]BL[570.51]
;W[np]WL[1437.118]
;B[pm]BL[425.937]
;W[pl]WL[1409.582]
;B[lk]BL[243.088]
;W[gg]WL[1121.182]
;B[ff]BL[183.338]
;W[fg]WL[1112.166]
;B[eg]BL[181.64]
;W[fe]WL[1110.703]
;B[df]BL[179.732]
;W[ee]WL[1092.273]
;B[de]BL[178.475]
;W[ge]WL[1090.966]
;B[dd]BL[177.044]
;W[ce]WL[1070.447]
;B[cc]BL[163.338]
;W[cb]WL[1055.189]
;B[bc]BL[161.626]
;W[bb]WL[1044.643]
;B[db]BL[88.752]
;W[eb]WL[1039.323]
;B[fb]BL[87.894]
;W[da]WL[1037.193]
;B[cg]BL[86.957]
;W[bf]WL[1027.02]
;B[bg]BL[77.841]
;W[bd]WL[1014.755]
;B[hf]BL[45.895]
;W[gf]WL[1010.139]
;B[hd]BL[44.808]
;W[fi]WL[1007.848]
;B[ei]BL[14.445]
;W[fj]WL[1001.767]
;B[fh]BL[13.488]
;W[gh]WL[999.358]
;B[gi]BL[10.855]
;W[fk]WL[997.221]
;B[ek]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[gk]WL[979.738]
;B[ii]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hh]WL[971.03]
;B[ij]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[he]WL[967.833]C[SinaGo [3k]: e9 was overplay
]
;B[if]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ie]WL[954.154]
;B[jf]BL[40]OB[4]C[goatsunday [8k]: should have been where? G 11?
]
;W[kd]WL[858.418]
;B[je]BL[40]OB[3]C[Sheeple [?]: straight to j11 is fine. e9 for g9 is just a bad exchange and black needs to come back to fix with j10
]
;W[id]WL[678.116]
;B[jd]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ic]WL[676.505]
;B[hc]BL[40]OB[3]C[Sheeple [?]: l16 probably losing, jush pushing is better
]
;W[jb]WL[628.732]
;B[kb]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[hb]WL[623.945]
;B[kc]BL[40]OB[3]C[Loki [7k?]: L17 oO
Sheeple [?]: yes, because that's not an eye on top
]
;W[ia]WL[590.17]
;B[bj]BL[40]OB[3]C[Sheeple [?]: now w has ko to connect
Loki [7k?]: now it is
]
;W[ol]WL[564.703]C[Sheeple [?]: it's not, someone should play tehre
]
;B[nm]BL[40]OB[3]C[Loki [7k?]: I would have played to ko
]
;W[nj]WL[547.742]
;B[pg]BL[40]OB[3]C[Sheeple [?]: b j6 will also be painful for white
]
;W[ng]WL[434.341]
;B[ph]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[qg]WL[429.196]
;B[pf]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[pi]WL[401.713]
;B[nh]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[mh]WL[213.224]
;B[oh]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[mi]WL[210.306]
(;B[mf]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[mg]WL[168.094]
;B[kj]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[mk]WL[128.939]
;B[ll]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[lm]WL[78.675]
;B[mm]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[jk]WL[71.928]
;B[kh]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[jl]WL[49.888]
;B[fa]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ea]WL[45.596]C[Sheeple [?]: mhh good
Sheeple [?]: sente
]
;B[bk]BL[40]OB[3]C[Sheeple [?]: w can live now at g19
]
;W[kk]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[lj]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ji]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[jj]BL[40]OB[3]C[goatsunday [8k]: ah, shortage of libs!
Sheeple [?]: right on
Sheeple [?]: maybe he can't see it in byo-yomi
goatsunday [8k]: but b can take at h19
Sheeple [?]: and then w takes it's still a second eye
]
;W[pd]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[qe]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[pc]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[qc]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[od]WL[40]OW[3]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: reduce
SoDesuNe [5k]: But I should have played Q17 for the sake of simplcity
]
(;B[pb]BL[40]OB[2]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: That's the reason I let my upper side totally reduced ^^
]
;W[nf]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[nc]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[nd]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[md]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ob]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[nb]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[me]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[le]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[lf]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[ld]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[kf]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[ih]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[qf]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[pe]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ho]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[dn]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[cm]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[dm]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[bl]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[el]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[cl]WL[40]OW[3]C[Sheeple [?]: catch two stones?
SoDesuNe [5k]: Kill the left side? ^^
Sheeple [?]: yes
SoDesuNe [5k]: I didn't consider it ^^
SoDesuNe [5k]: Too exhausted I think
Sheeple [?]: ah
Sheeple [?]: well, you have a few days to 3k left still, no problem
SoDesuNe [5k]: But, yeah would have been possible
SoDesuNe [5k]: ha ha ha ^^
Sheeple [?]: bye
rubin427 [6k]: Thank you for playing SoDesuNe. Again, sorry about the mixup with the meeting time.
SoDesuNe [5k]: Thank you and no problem, you agreed to let me have japanese and byo-yomi so it's even ^^
SoDesuNe [5k]: well, well, I need a break now ^^
rubin427 [6k]: yes, me too.
SoDesuNe [5k]: See you around!
rubin427 [6k]: see you next time.
rubin427 [6k]: I can post the game to the forums.
SoDesuNe [5k]: Okay
SoDesuNe [5k]: Thank you
SoDesuNe [5k]: bye
]
;B[gm]BL[40]OB[2]C[Loki [7k?]: That split looks evil
]
;W[hl]WL[40]OW[3]C[Sheeple [?]: more so because the side....
]
;B[gn]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[hm]WL[40]OW[3]C[Loki [7k?]: does A6 kill?
]
;B[hn]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[in]WL[40]OW[3]C[Sheeple [?]: yes
]
;B[fm]BL[40]OB[2]C[Loki [7k?]: chicken move
]
;W[bq]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[oi]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[oj]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[qi]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[pj]WL[40]OW[3]
(;B[rf]BL[40]OB[2]C[Sheeple [?]: aw man
]
;W[ri]WL[40]OW[3]C[redundant [4k]: s11 worked
]
;B[rh]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[qj]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[rg]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[qi]WL[40]OW[3]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: lucky me
]
;B[hq]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ip]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[hp]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[io]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[al]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[am]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[ak]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[an]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[rr]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[sr]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[qs]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[br]WL[40]OW[3]C[Sheeple [?]: if w would live it would be close
]
;B[mj]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ni]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[nk]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[hj]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[hi]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[hk]WL[40]OW[3]C[redundant [4k]: living is too small, there's 1pt gote endgame moves still
Sheeple [?]: true
Sheeple [?]: w plays g19
SoDesuNe [5k]: Show me ^^
]
(;B[dg]BL[40]OB[2]C[redundant [4k]: dead
Sheeple [?]: heh
]
;W[ke]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[bs]BL[40]OB[2]C[Loki [7k?]: hasn't w been dead for ages?
redundant [4k]: nope
redundant [4k]: white could live with g18
redundant [4k]: catch black in shortage of liberties
Sheeple [?]: he means g19
redundant [4k]: yeah
]
;W[ag]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[bh]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ah]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ai]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[af]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ln]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[km]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[of]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ne]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[oo]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[om]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[no]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[nl]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[kg]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[lg]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[li]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[on]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[rs]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ls]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ks]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ms]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[os]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ok]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[si]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[sj]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[sh]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ar]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ik]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[il]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ss]BL[40]OB[2]C[redundant [4k]: can't connect
]
;W[rm]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[sq]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[sp]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[sr]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[mk]WL[40]OW[1]
;B[]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[]WL[40]OW[1]TW[aa][ba][ca][ab][db][ac][bc][cc][ad][ae][be][mf][rj][pk][rk][sk][ql][rl][sl][bm][im][jm][sm][bn][jn][sn][ao][jo][ko][ro][so][ap][jp][aq]TB[ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][gb][hb][ib][jb][lb][mb][ob][qb][rb][sb][gc][ic][lc][mc][rc][sc][gd][id][rd][sd][ee][fe][ge][he][ie][re][se][ef][ff][gf][sf][fg][gg][hg][ig][jg][sg][ch][dh][gh][hh][jh][bi][ci][ji][ki][aj][em][en][fn][ep][fp][dq][eq][fr][gr][hr][qr][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js]C[redundant [4k]: f8 is a pt for white
SoDesuNe [5k]: Thank you
rubin427 [6k]: Thank you for the match.
rubin427 [6k]: I should have resigned some time ago. I misread G15 group.
Sheeple [?]: so did black
rubin427 [6k]: My appologies.
SoDesuNe [5k]: No problem
Loki [7k?]: Never surrender!
SoDesuNe [5k]: What did I read wrong? ^^
Sheeple [?]: it wasn't dead until b played d13
rubin427 [6k]: S13 endgame was also very large for black.
SoDesuNe [5k]: y
Sheeple [?]: also misplayed
SoDesuNe [5k]: D13 bucked me all the way ^^
catsoldier [6k]: take a look before move 231
Sheeple [?]: because b s11 was good
])
(;B[]
;W[dg]
;B[dh]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: But well
Sheeple [?]: that's not the reason
SoDesuNe [5k]: I am connected here
catsoldier [6k]: ctrl
])
(;B[ik]
;W[ga]
;B[gb]
;W[gd]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: ahhh
SoDesuNe [5k]: Uha
SoDesuNe [5k]: That's nasty
rubin427 [6k]: ugh
catsoldier [6k]: good eye sheepie
SoDesuNe [5k]: y^^
]))
(;B[ri]C[SoDesuNe [5k]: yeah, I must admit, I was too lazy to read this
Sheeple [?]: ok, not necessary when you think w is dead it's over
]))
(;B[nf]C[Sheeple [?]: i'm not sure w can live at all
SoDesuNe [5k]: I wasn't too
SoDesuNe [5k]: But my time was running low
]))
(;B[in]C[Sheeple [?]: did you think about this?
SoDesuNe [5k]: No
Sheeple [?]: w has almost no eyeshape
SoDesuNe [5k]: I know, I eyed at the cut g6
Sheeple [?]: oh, that was something too
]))

[SoDesuNe]

Thank you, too! It was a very good game and as we both know now, I got lucky at least once ^^

[topazg]

Good game both, I look forward to playing the winner of you and GoCat

[tj86430]

Nakamura (B) vs me: B+3.5

http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/6/22/TimoJ-Nakamura.sgf

[Nakamura]

Really good game, tj. Thank you.

[Aphelion]

Here's my game with Karaklis, with review from Shaddy and Ketchup. I was Black and won by resignation. Ketchup, your're next on my list .

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[10/300 Canadian]
PW[karaklis]PB[Aphelion02]WR[6k]BR[6k]DT[2010-06-25]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]BL[2395.191]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: man was hoping for white
karaklis [6k]: good game
]
;W[dp]WL[2391.143]
;B[pq]BL[2390.397]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: you too
]
;W[dd]WL[2386.913]
;B[oc]BL[2385.835]
;W[po]WL[2383.312]
;B[qm]BL[2378.104]C[Shadonra [1d]: ok, pretty normal
]
;W[on]WL[2376.195]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: is usual for black
]
(;B[mq]BL[2353.718]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: after q8
Aphelion02 [6k]: man thanks to my kuchinahsi games
Aphelion02 [6k]: everyone on forums learnt this pincer
Aphelion02 [6k]: no more free wins for me
Shadonra [1d]: still a little normal
]
(;W[pl]WL[2347.423]
(;B[fc]BL[2310.145]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: but the pincer also is awkward
ketchup [3k]: i dont think so
Aphelion02 [6k]: well if you pincer
Aphelion02 [6k]: i'd just dive into corner
karaklis [7k]: yeah the pincer looked awkward
ketchup [3k]: preferred due to q6 imo
Aphelion02 [6k]: and i think my p17 looks very well placed
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea i don't quite get that too
ketchup [3k]: because q8
]
(;W[df]WL[2319.996]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm questioning this a little
Aphelion02 [6k]: my switch to top
Aphelion02 [6k]: but white r10 didn't bother me
Aphelion02 [6k]: so i decided i can doi t
ketchup [3k]: yes hard to get away with it, but i guess it's ok.. hard to say it's purely bad
ketchup [3k]: i mean for white, d14...
ketchup [3k]: is odd
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
ketchup [3k]: i think you can't let black have that top so easily
ketchup [3k]: imo pincer is required.. q8 is now good
ketchup [3k]: the weakness in q8 makes top larger imo
Shadonra [1d]: say we do this
]
;B[jd]BL[2303.327]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: is really realy weird
catsoldier [6k]: why is top larger than the left?
catsoldier [6k]: this time I meant left
Shadonra [1d]: now b has some pretty firm territory, yeah?
Aphelion02 [6k]: i like cash in opening
Shadonra [1d]: w on the other hand, has to add a move
catsoldier [6k]: plenty of invasion points
]
(;W[gd]WL[2291.31]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: g16
Aphelion02 [6k]: i think its purely negative for white
ketchup [3k]: feels too early
Aphelion02 [6k]: almost nothing gained
ketchup [3k]: yes
ketchup [3k]: making black take pure territory
ketchup [3k]: pushing on third line
]
;B[gc]BL[2280.806]C[Shadonra [1d]: bad..
Shadonra [1d]: forces b to cover his weakness
]
;W[hd]WL[2267.606]
;B[hc]BL[2270.734]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: so i chose to try to create 2 weak white groups
ketchup [3k]: this pushing is way too early and just not the right type of play
ketchup [3k]: i think you shouldnt play 4-4 if you are doing to do this
]
;W[fq]WL[2225.845]C[ketchup [3k]: and this lol
Aphelion02 [6k]: this is my 4th game vs karaklis
]
(;B[ck]BL[2247.302]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i think nirensei iis fine?
catsoldier [6k]: how is it supposed to be followed up?
Aphelion02 [6k]: here i expected white to kick
ketchup [3k]: which catsoldier?
Aphelion02 [6k]: bottom right?
Aphelion02 [6k]: or left
catsoldier [6k]: the whole bottom ohhh
catsoldier [6k]: right
catsoldier [6k]: I meant
Aphelion02 [6k]: r9
]
;W[ci]WL[2210.314]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: so i wanted to wait and see
]
;B[cn]BL[2243.045]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: and i'm stuck with this 2 point group inside that stiill needs a move to mlive
ketchup [3k]: no choice..
]
(;W[bp]WL[2201.195]C[ketchup [3k]: e10 now?
Aphelion02 [6k]: back
]
(;B[ek]BL[2225.638]
(;W[ei]WL[2189.791]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i was a little worried about the peep
Aphelion02 [6k]: here
Aphelion02 [6k]: i like it
Aphelion02 [6k]: was thinking pushing r7
Aphelion02 [6k]: but i didn't expect b q10
Shadonra [1d]: w should have played r3, b r2, w r4
Aphelion02 [6k]: if white is considered weak here
Shadonra [1d]: before
Aphelion02 [6k]: i kinda hate this joseki for white
]
(;B[en]BL[2205.38]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: but c17 for black would have been annoying for white to deal with
Aphelion02 [6k]: so i can understand that
Shadonra [1d]: this is unnecessary
]
(;W[db]WL[2162.28]C[ketchup [3k]: too slow..
catsoldier [6k]: lots of cash for w though
Aphelion02 [6k]: black?
Aphelion02 [6k]: or white
ketchup [3k]: d18 slow
Aphelion02 [6k]: htats a lot of cash
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
ketchup [3k]: it's uninteresting at the moment
ketchup [3k]: he has q8 to follow up on still
]
;B[qk]BL[2202.558]
;W[ql]WL[2143.31]
;B[rl]BL[2198.798]
(;W[np]WL[2091.216]C[ketchup [3k]: i dont like this exchange either :/
Aphelion02 [6k]: i was VERY happy to play o3
Aphelion02 [6k]: if you have that weakness hanging on you you can't do anything spectacular
]
;B[nq]BL[2194.043]
(;W[jq]WL[2083.754]
;B[rj]BL[2162.854]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i'd just make shape
ketchup [3k]: but im not sure what's better
Aphelion02 [6k]: with r3 or o8
Aphelion02 [6k]: always live first
Aphelion02 [6k]: invade later
ketchup [3k]: too much unfinished thoughts
ketchup [3k]: maybe over here.. lol
]
(;W[rd]WL[2066.076]C[Shadonra [1d]: after this
]
;B[rc]BL[2122.399]C[ketchup [3k]: what is the "standard" moves here?
ketchup [3k]: cross cut?
Aphelion02 [6k]: no
Aphelion02 [6k]: if cros ccutt
Aphelion02 [6k]: for black
Shadonra [1d]: i think i'd just leave the w stone
]
(;W[qe]WL[2054.787]C[ketchup [3k]: i dunno if this is right type of exchange
ketchup [3k]: maybe even s16 is off
]
;B[re]BL[2092.742]
;W[pd]WL[2046.108]
;B[qc]BL[2089.645]
;W[rf]WL[2039.419]
;B[sd]BL[2087.127]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: because usually you see this when there's a huge black moyo on right
Aphelion02 [6k]: and its not really there
ketchup [3k]: yes
ketchup [3k]: and s10 is just very solid
ketchup [3k]: so im confused why p13..
Aphelion02 [6k]: looks worse
]
(;W[og]WL[2032.76]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i don't know for certain which is right
ketchup [3k]: hmm why sabaki from this side?
ketchup [3k]: you want to stay strong due to s10
karaklis [7k]: which side is better?
ketchup [3k]: well it's just inherent weakness here?
ketchup [3k]: why do you want to play fast?
ketchup [3k]: that's the question here
Aphelion02 [6k]: this looks weird for white
ketchup [3k]: i'd just play crudely
Aphelion02 [6k]: than my version
Shadonra [1d]: ok, standard
ketchup [3k]: really?
Shadonra [1d]: yes
ketchup [3k]: why this lightly when s10?
ketchup [3k]: inviting a fight with two weak groups?
Shadonra [1d]: i think s10 is pretty invincible
ketchup [3k]: right
karaklis [7k]: is q12 instead p13 better?
Shadonra [1d]: well..
ketchup [3k]: the shape is ok, but i mean the decision
Shadonra [1d]: i think i'd treat it like a reduction
catsoldier [6k]: the sequence continues after a cut w makes a group farther out
ketchup [3k]: what if r15 attach instead of s16?
]
(;B[oj]BL[2085.149]C[ketchup [3k]: lol
Shadonra [1d]: i do not like this, it invites w to protect his cut
ketchup [3k]: it's just crude/vulgar sttyle from blitz
]
;W[pk]WL[2018.115]
;B[pj]BL[2082.184]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: shaddy show?
]
;W[qi]WL[2014.805]
;B[qj]BL[2075.775]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: what cut are u talking about
Shadonra [1d]: q7 cut
ketchup [3k]: q7..
Aphelion02 [6k]: oh
Aphelion02 [6k]: ahh
Aphelion02 [6k]: i thought you might p10
ketchup [3k]: i think lost in opening/fuseki
Aphelion02 [6k]: ok ketchup u have it back
ketchup [3k]: shad, go over first 20 moves?
Shadonra [1d]: ok
ketchup [3k]: or so
karaklis [7k]: yeah
]
(;W[md]WL[1998.742]C[ketchup [3k]: trying too much..
Shadonra [1d]: this isn't a group you extend from or really defend
]
;B[ne]BL[2064.261]
;W[nd]WL[1931.136]
;B[od]BL[2053.302]
;W[oe]WL[1927.699]
;B[nf]BL[1967.75]
;W[of]WL[1895.853]
;B[lf]BL[1965.231]
;W[pc]WL[1869.835]
;B[pb]BL[1960.427]
;W[pe]WL[1867.997]
;B[ob]BL[1936.001]
;W[ng]WL[1860.511]
;B[le]BL[1914.869]
;W[mh]WL[1823.297]C[Shadonra [1d]: gave b too much..
]
;B[kh]BL[1910.411]
;W[mj]WL[1812.826]
;B[nk]BL[1908.536]
;W[mk]WL[1764.831]
;B[nl]BL[1903.421]
;W[lm]WL[1743.184]
;B[mn]BL[1897.416]
;W[mm]WL[1736.183]
;B[nm]BL[1894.841]
;W[nn]WL[1733.372]
;B[lo]BL[1832.776]
;W[mo]WL[1697.902]
;B[ln]BL[1829.271]
;W[lp]WL[1678.822]C[Shadonra [1d]: ok, game over
]
;B[mp]BL[1826.483]
;W[no]WL[1676.64]
;B[kp]BL[1819.222]
;W[lq]WL[1673.133]
;B[kq]BL[1816.882]
;W[lr]WL[1670.745]
;B[kr]BL[1814.584]
;W[kn]WL[1648.793]
;B[ko]BL[1811.888]
;W[oq]WL[1645.863]
;B[or]BL[1808.062]
;W[op]WL[1638.592]
;B[mr]BL[1788.949]
;W[qq]WL[1626.106]
;B[qr]BL[1777.494]
;W[rq]WL[1618.967]
;B[ro]BL[1771.358]
;W[pp]WL[1589.144]
;B[pr]BL[1762.705]
;W[rr]WL[1558.261]
;B[rs]BL[1757.259]
;W[rp]WL[1547.521]
;B[qo]BL[1740.116]
;W[qn]WL[1536.118]
;B[rn]BL[1732.097]
;W[qp]WL[1494.272]
;B[kj]BL[1628.039]
;W[ji]WL[1462.003]
;B[ki]BL[1624.045]
;W[id]WL[1456.139]
;B[ic]BL[1621.741]
;W[je]WL[1453.755]
;B[kd]BL[1599.125]
;W[nj]WL[1433.796]
;B[pm]BL[1592.113]
;W[sp]WL[1382.904]
;B[sr]BL[1588.156]
;W[jn]WL[1342.828]
;B[jg]BL[1565.272]
;W[hg]WL[1333.122]
;B[fd]BL[1521.01]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: ketchup
Aphelion02 [6k]: do u mind?
ketchup [3k]: i didnt watch full game
Aphelion02 [6k]: do it now
ketchup [3k]: i will just go through it
catsoldier [6k]: n9 pushes b towards the weak group on the bottom right
catsoldier [6k]: why not L 11
Shadonra [1d]: aph has control
ketchup [3k]: better.. but even then game is over
ketchup [3k]: too much top for black from his n16
Aphelion02 [6k]: mm
ketchup [3k]: i feel like game ended at s10 :/
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
ketchup [3k]: uphill battle
Aphelion02 [6k]: after that i felt very comfortable
]
;W[fe]WL[1326.845]
;B[bi]BL[1482.227]
;W[bh]WL[1316.324]
;B[io]BL[1455.547]
;W[bj]WL[1308.986]
;B[kl]BL[1438.881]
;W[km]WL[1304.579]
;B[jl]BL[1434.613]
;W[in]WL[1300.422]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i went for the kill here though
Aphelion02 [6k]: i didn't like being ignored
ketchup [3k]: you have nothing to lose lol
karaklis [7k]: lol
Aphelion02 [6k]: at first i just wanted to connect to e6
ketchup [3k]: e6 group still so solid
Aphelion02 [6k]: hehe
]
;B[hp]BL[1429.544]
;W[il]WL[1261.202]
;B[hn]BL[1396.462]
;W[go]WL[1245.802]
;B[ho]BL[1328.086]
;W[ga]WL[1242.802]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm lagging kinda bad, can't review
]
;B[im]BL[1323.995]
;W[ia]WL[1232.142]C[ketchup [3k]: g19 = end game moved played during fighting
Aphelion02 [6k]: interesting tsumego?
ketchup [3k]: better make sure it's actually worth a lot
Shadonra [1d]: b to kill, or w to live?
Aphelion02 [6k]: i think its b to kill
Aphelion02 [6k]: but i'm not sure
Aphelion02 [6k]: :p
Aphelion02 [6k]: the way i saw it p11 is one gote eye
Aphelion02 [6k]: and i have to maek sure no way to make two eyes on r13 area
Aphelion02 [6k]: in sente
]
;B[qg]BL[1216.745]
;W[pg]WL[1195.687]
;B[qh]BL[1130.618]
;W[qf]WL[1188.021]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: damn i have no time to review anymore
ketchup [3k]: maybe i didnt read well, but why not r14?
Aphelion02 [6k]: karaklis, i'll post game?
ketchup [3k]: isnt it all ths ame?
ketchup [3k]: all the*
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea i tis
]
;B[oi]BL[1124.01]
;W[ni]WL[1162.156]
;B[oh]BL[1096.836]
;W[jb]WL[1136.314]
;B[jc]BL[1092.746]
;W[rh]WL[1076.028]
;B[ph]BL[1068.351]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: thanks
Aphelion02 [6k]: gg
karaklis [7k]: thanks for the game
karaklis [7k]: i screwed up the corner
karaklis [7k]: at that time the game was already lost
catsoldier [6k]: I think n9 caused w big trouble
ketchup [3k]: just weak groups in general..
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
karaklis [7k]: black can connect
Aphelion02 [6k]: need to respect black's sente more
ketchup [3k]: forced to take bad exchanges because you are too worried about each of your weak groups
karaklis [7k]: yeah
ketchup [3k]: also need to follow up on s8 exchange no?
Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
ketchup [3k]: either way i believe s10 created the shift to black's advantage
Aphelion02 [6k]: if you poked down
Aphelion02 [6k]: you had to do it
ketchup [3k]: yes
Aphelion02 [6k]: otherwise your stone lost meaning
ketchup [3k]: anyways nice game, gg
Aphelion02 [6k]: gg
Aphelion02 [6k]: ketchup
Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm after you next
Aphelion02 [6k]: gotta give me sometime though
karaklis [7k]: thanks for reviewing
Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm very busy this few weeks
Shadonra [1d]: beat him silly!
catsoldier [6k]: ^^
Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm gonna make his ketchup spill!
Shadonra [1d]: aphelion, what is good in life?
catsoldier [6k]: we'll see if you can cut the mustard
Aphelion02 [6k]: lol is this trick question
Aphelion02 [6k]: to eat stones
Aphelion02 [6k]: thats what's good
Shadonra [1d]: it's a quote from some movie
Shadonra [1d]: conan
Shadonra [1d]: ?
Aphelion02 [6k]: never finished seeing it
Aphelion02 [6k]: only saw first half of destroyer
Shadonra [1d]: ah
Aphelion02 [6k]: ok, i g2g
Shadonra [1d]: later!
Aphelion02 [6k]: thanks all
])
(;W[lg]C[Shadonra [1d]: keep it light
catsoldier [6k]: and make a heavy group
catsoldier [6k]: I mean w made a heavy group
Shadonra [1d]: when you play sabaki like this, be ready to sacrifice anything
]))
(;B[pm]
;W[om]
;B[ol]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: this looks more all in
]
;W[pj]
(;B[ml]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: hehe
])
(;B[oj]
;W[pi]
;B[mn])))
(;W[ph])
(;W[pg]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: closer to s10 makes that attack more severe
Shadonra [1d]: feels too close
]))
(;W[qc]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: not sure
]
(;B[pc]
(;W[qe]
;B[qb]
;W[re]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i've seen cross cut yea
])
(;W[qb]))
(;B[qb]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: r15
]
;W[qe]
;B[pd]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: r12
]
;W[sc]
;B[rb]
;W[rf]C[catsoldier [6k]: I've seen karaklis' sequence too though
Aphelion02 [6k]: mmm
]))
(;W[re]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: r18
]
;B[qe]
;W[rf])
(;W[nl]C[Shadonra [1d]: and maybe later it'll be useful to activate the aji
]))
(;W[nl])
(;W[pm])
(;W[qe]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: doesn't black feel too solid here/
]
;B[pe]
;W[qf]
;B[rd]
;W[pf]
;B[oe]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: thats an actual probe?
Shadonra [1d]: kinda suck
ketchup [3k]: no just trying to be flexible aphe
ketchup [3k]: lol
]))
(;W[rm]
;B[rk]
;W[rn])
(;W[pm]C[Shadonra [1d]: gotta fix your shape
]))
(;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[or])
(;W[rm]
;B[rk]
;W[rn]))
(;W[rd])
(;W[ql])
(;W[oe]))
(;B[jq]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: whats your mvoe here?
]
;W[dl]
;B[dk]
(;W[bm]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: b7?
Shadonra [1d]: i dunno, i'm not too worried
])
(;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]
;B[el]
;W[bk]
;B[dm]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: even this works huh
]))
(;B[pj]C[ketchup [3k]: yes
ketchup [3k]: this is a lot better
Shadonra [1d]: maybe it's aji keshi or too close
Aphelion02 [6k]: wow nice
ketchup [3k]: too hard on white
]
;W[ql]
;B[rj]
;W[rl]C[ketchup [3k]: white's weakness is too big
])
(;B[qp]
;W[qo]C[Shadonra [1d]: yeah, b has a lot of forcing moves
Shadonra [1d]: w will be hurting
Aphelion02 [6k]: is Q5 really that weak?
Aphelion02 [6k]: surely white can be satisfied by just pushing a bitfor some influence
]
;B[pj]
;W[ql]
;B[rj]C[Shadonra [1d]: pushing what?
Aphelion02 [6k]: eh nvm
]))
(;W[qj]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: its only weak if you think white has to make a base there
Shadonra [1d]: well, compare the difference
Shadonra [1d]: between this
]))
(;B[ej]C[ketchup [3k]: to try to force something good :/
ketchup [3k]: mean for white
]))
(;W[qj]C[Shadonra [1d]: i want to see this played
Shadonra [1d]: w's group is strong how
Shadonra [1d]: now
])
(;W[ej]C[Shadonra [1d]: here?
Aphelion02 [6k]: i'd uust play b4
ketchup [3k]: yes, no choice
]
;B[bp]
;W[cq]C[Shadonra [1d]: i think b gets off easy..
Aphelion02 [6k]: and i can still mess with you at f16
ketchup [3k]: i see
]))
(;AE[fq]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i've noticed his tendencies a little
Aphelion02 [6k]: he tends to try to make moyos by brute force
ketchup [3k]: tthis at least looks more interesting
Aphelion02 [6k]: i think this is intention to have large left
karaklis [7k]: yeah it's a bad habit
ketchup [3k]: or even this
Aphelion02 [6k]: ketchup, your transposing itno something entirely different :OP
ketchup [3k]:
karaklis [7k]: i feel forced to make moyos as i see disadvantages at the edges
ketchup [3k]: i dont like d4
ketchup [3k]: if he's going to go moyo
ketchup [3k]: lol
Aphelion02 [6k]: heh
catsoldier [6k]: bottom left was joseki?
]))
(;W[rd]C[ketchup [3k]: maybe you can get this early
Aphelion02 [6k]: i hate that probe so much
ketchup [3k]: probe here first
ketchup [3k]: lol
Aphelion02 [6k]: i was strongly debating between just r15
Aphelion02 [6k]: and s17 here
Aphelion02 [6k]: but he let me get s9
])
(;W[cj]C[Shadonra [1d]: because all his stones are high, it's easy to invade
])
(;W[hc]C[Shadonra [1d]: well, w can invade here
]
;B[hd]
;W[ic]
;B[id]
;W[gc]
;B[gd]
;W[ec]
;B[jc]C[Shadonra [1d]: b gets the other side
])
(;W[md])
(;W[lc]
;B[jc]C[Shadonra [1d]: black's gonna get something on the top
Shadonra [1d]: w can't take it all
]))
(;W[hd])
(;W[hc]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: mm
Shadonra [1d]: i'd rather do this, top is larger
]
;B[cc]
;W[dc]
;B[cd]
;W[de]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[cf]
;W[kc]C[Shadonra [1d]: so i'd probably play like this
])
(;W[jd])
(;W[jc]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: p17 is low though
Shadonra [1d]: maybe further
]))
(;B[qp]))
(;W[qq]C[Shadonra [1d]: this is important, though
Shadonra [1d]: if you don't get it, r4 is almost sente
]
(;B[qr]
;W[qp]C[ketchup [3k]: really?
ketchup [3k]: omit p2?
Aphelion02 [6k]: i can't really read a follow up
Shadonra [1d]: 'cause you got a problem now
Shadonra [1d]: need this exchange
]
(;B[or]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: yea this too
]
;W[pl]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i'd probably ommit p2
ketchup [3k]: this exchange then jump out.. but i think the q8 jump is ok
ketchup [3k]: i generally see this
ketchup [3k]: at least this is close to joseki?
Aphelion02 [6k]: i didn't white white to get a ponnuki on outside
])
(;B[qk]
;W[or]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: but this shape looks good
]
;B[pr]
;W[oq]C[catsoldier [6k]: I was curious about the right, because it stayed weak
]
;B[op]
;W[pp]
;B[np]
;W[rr]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: but i'd probalby have to give up q2 stones
ketchup [3k]: bad
]
;B[nr]
;W[qs]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
]
(;B[fq]
;W[hq])
(;B[iq]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: too much for white
ketchup [3k]: bad exchange yes
]))
(;B[qj]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[oq]
;B[op]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: ahh
]
;W[pp]
;B[os]
;W[np]
;B[nr]
;W[oo]C[ketchup [3k]: ah better joseki
Aphelion02 [6k]: wow
])
(;B[rr]C[karaklis [7k]: what if black hanes from the top?
]
;W[pl]))
(;B[qp]
;W[pp]
;B[qo]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: looks likea huge mess
ketchup [3k]: r2?
ketchup [3k]: i guess just ake outside
]
(;W[qn]
;B[rn])
(;W[rq]
;B[oq]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[pn]
;B[rp]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i'm not into creating these messes without a clear advantage
])
(;W[oq]
;B[pr]
;W[or]C[ketchup [3k]: this at least works with his 4-4
]
;B[qr]C[ketchup [3k]: yes..
Shadonra [1d]: this looks ok
]
;W[rq]
;B[rr]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[pn]
;B[rp]
;W[jq]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: one million forcing moves for white
]))))
(;B[np]C[Shadonra [1d]: maybe this
]))

[ketchup]

The review is a bit disorganized. You should remove all of my comments, and just keep shad's comments. Only so at least, it's consistently one person reviewing rather than having a few different lines. Also, it's better the stronger player's comments are kept in. I like to look at tangents.


As for the match, just let me know when you want your match, I'll be around.

[Chew Terr]

Nikolas and I will be playing at 3 p.m. Central time (US/Canada). That's UTC-6.
edit: Today (Saturday).

[Chew Terr]

Nikolas won by 22.5. My midgame was... very generous.

http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/6/26/Nikolas73-Chew.sgf

[daniel_the_smith]

Review of the above game (most comments directed at black but a few for white):

(;CA[utf-8]FF[4]ST[2]RU[AGA]OT[10/300 Canadian]C[Nikolas73 [5k]: Have fun
Chew [6k]: Hi, enjoy the game
]
AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]GM[1]DT[2010-06-26]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
PB[Chew]BR[6k]PW[Nikolas73]WR[5k]KM[7.5]TM[2400]RE[W+22.50]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[pd]BL[2389.95];W[dp]WL[2397.79];B[pq]BL[2383.53];W[dd]WL[2394.98];B[fq]BL[2375.33]
;W[hq]WL[2390.12];B[kq]BL[2340.99];W[ho]WL[2359.82];B[cq]BL[2338.21];W[dq]WL[2356.25]
;B[cp]BL[2329.26];W[do]WL[2352.12];B[dr]BL[2327.58];W[er]WL[2350.67];B[cr]BL[2325.18]
;W[eq]WL[2349.29];B[cn]BL[2323.33];W[fp]WL[2343.33]C[White seems very overconcentrated. I don't like H5 but I'm not sure what really went wrong.]
;B[fc]BL[2313.16];W[cf]WL[2340.09];B[jd]BL[2300.65];W[qo]WL[2319.04];B[qp]BL[2260.1]
C[My understanding is that this kick is theoretically bad for black without a pincer stone already in place.]
;W[po]WL[2313.12];B[np]BL[2250.68]C[If white gets a stone around m3 there's all sorts of nastyness starting with white P3... (not that this is bad, you just need to be aware of it)]
;W[qk]WL[2309.99];B[qh]BL[2225.55]C[I say, either go all the way (R11) or just make a shimari (R14). Compromise moves in go usually end up achiving neither of their objectives.]
;W[qc]WL[2272.06];B[pc]BL[2214.63];W[qd]WL[2270.39];B[qe]BL[2213.66];W[pb]WL[2267.18]
;B[ob]BL[2207.13];W[qb]WL[2259.54];B[nc]BL[2192.12];W[re]WL[2257.95];B[qf]BL[2190.38]
;W[cl]WL[2196.63];B[rf]BL[2145.22];W[rd]WL[2184.49];B[sb]BL[2134.66]C[White is alive, L+2. Playing both hanes is of course better endgame ]
;W[sc]WL[2175.07];B[dm]BL[1917.92];W[ci]WL[2158.28];B[db]BL[1905.18]C[I greatly prefer F15.]
;W[cc]WL[2155.35];B[fe]BL[1901.93]C[Because of the last two moves you can no longer invade the corner.]
;W[ld]WL[2081.61];B[ke]BL[1828.49];W[le]WL[2004.52];B[lf]BL[1815.94]C[L13 might be better.]
;W[jc]WL[1998.17]
(;B[kd]BL[1735.69]C[This move is unlikely to be good just from the looks of it. You remove your own liberty (not to mention the shape). See var.]
;W[kc]WL[1982.59];B[id]BL[1697.17]C[This gives white eyespace along the top, but the problem was the last move.]
(;W[hc]WL[1951.17]C[This way, white can be split. (see var in a few moves for how and var now for alternatives)]
;B[ic]BL[1689.59];W[ib]WL[1949.96];B[hb]BL[1665.2];W[gb]WL[1948.45];B[jb]BL[1663.32]
;W[ha]WL[1946.7]
(;B[lc]BL[1640.57]C[You can do a lot better, see var.];W[kb]WL[1942.38];B[lb]BL[1639.08]
;W[ja]WL[1940.49];B[cb]BL[1625.73]C[H16 is much more important than this at the moment. Maybe this is even the game losing move.]
;W[hd]WL[1895.87];B[he]BL[1611.24]C[Now black has to give up something.];W[ge]WL[1884.59]
;B[gf]BL[1481.65];W[ie]WL[1871.67];B[gd]BL[1467.87];W[kf]WL[1869.29]C[I think black has to try to start trouble at R7 and hope for a white mistake now. (only one more comment, at move 165)]
;B[di]BL[1430.59];W[dh]WL[1853.17];B[cj]BL[1415.71];W[dj]WL[1850.7];B[dk]BL[1413.62]
;W[ei]WL[1842.57];B[ck]BL[1412.35];W[ek]WL[1840.67];B[el]BL[1406.28];W[co]WL[1816.39]
;B[bo]BL[1403.32];W[ol]WL[1789.06];B[jf]BL[1367.71];W[je]WL[1785.71];B[if]BL[1366.25]
;W[mf]WL[1780.21];B[es]BL[1226.25];W[fs]WL[1771.55];B[ds]BL[1224.11];W[fr]WL[1770.81]
;B[ko]BL[1136.45];W[bj]WL[1765.64];B[bk]BL[1111.75]C[Nakamura [7k]: Nikolas is a tricky 5 kyu eh
]
;W[bi]WL[1750.81];B[aj]BL[1040.85];W[og]WL[1737.71];B[of]BL[1025.04];W[pg]WL[1731.36]
;B[pf]BL[1006.08];W[kh]WL[1726.29];B[ng]BL[986.385];W[nh]WL[1714.12];B[nf]BL[952.107]
;W[mg]WL[1706.52];B[qg]BL[884.175];W[kk]WL[1700.21];B[hi]BL[850.391];W[lm]WL[1570.18]
;B[oh]BL[845.978];W[oi]WL[1562.52];B[pi]BL[837.192];W[ni]WL[1556.58];B[rj]BL[810.398]
;W[rk]WL[1553.49];B[qj]BL[743.116];W[rp]WL[1540.07];B[rq]BL[739.107];W[pp]WL[1533.46]
;B[qq]BL[736.166];W[op]WL[1532.22];B[oq]BL[730.727];W[no]WL[1515.8];B[mp]BL[722.215]
;W[mo]WL[1447.08];B[pk]BL[715.835];W[pl]WL[1444.12];B[rl]BL[713.081];W[ql]WL[1440.46]
;B[sk]BL[710.917];W[rm]WL[1439.24];B[sl]BL[695.119];W[sm]WL[1437.1];B[sj]BL[694.339]
;W[jp]WL[1431.13];B[kp]BL[667.142];W[jq]WL[1429.11];B[ji]BL[572.852];W[ki]WL[1373.33]
;B[ln]BL[555.631];W[mn]WL[1369.83];B[km]BL[552.119];W[kl]WL[1365.18];B[bc]BL[451.374]
;W[bd]WL[1361.07];B[dc]BL[448.531];W[cd]WL[1358.78];B[ab]BL[430.661];W[la]WL[1354.95]
;B[mb]BL[421.949];W[ai]WL[1340.35];B[ak]BL[365.018];W[ih]WL[1325.75];B[hh]BL[310.265]
;W[ii]WL[1315.52];B[fk]BL[263.459];W[ej]WL[1309.69];B[gl]BL[228.628];W[fm]WL[1298.53]
;B[gm]BL[198.572];W[fl]WL[1289.27]
(;B[em]BL[162.91]C[see var];W[fn]WL[1284.38];B[gj]BL[119.97];W[jj]WL[1281.03];B[ok]
BL[102.328];W[nk]WL[1278.25];B[ro]BL[57.457];W[rn]WL[1270.16];B[sp]BL[50.097];W[oj]
WL[1267.61];B[pj]BL[44.546];W[lo]WL[1257.73];B[kn]BL[39.963];W[nm]WL[1252.63];OB[9]
B[jg]BL[277.276];W[jh]WL[1233.85];OB[8]B[ik]BL[269.214];W[kr]WL[1159.8];OB[7]B[lr]
BL[263.442];W[jr]WL[1151.42];OB[6]B[lp]BL[233.263]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i just think black got completely outfought
Aphelion02 [6k]: doesn't look particularly tricky
Shadonra [1d]: losing k16 lost the game
]
;W[ls]WL[1106.22];OB[5]B[ms]BL[210.709];W[ks]WL[1103.79];OB[4]B[mr]BL[208.861];W[fb]
WL[1069.81];OB[3]B[eb]BL[199.009];W[ed]WL[1067.11];OB[2]B[ec]BL[192.249];W[dn]WL[959.373]
;OB[1]B[cm]BL[181.106];W[gn]WL[951.258];OB[10]B[eg]BL[300];W[dg]WL[942.498];OB[9]
B[md]BL[278.156];W[me]WL[938.125];OB[8]B[ne]BL[271.823]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: yea
]
;W[sf]WL[935.065];OB[7]B[sg]BL[267.077]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: white had no right to get so much in there
]
;W[se]WL[932.09]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: i think not even m17 is necessary?
Aphelion02 [6k]: didn't l18 work?
Shadonra [1d]: yes
]
;OB[6]B[jo]BL[183.33];W[hm]WL[925.986];OB[5]B[hl]BL[167.481];W[ef]WL[911.818];OB[4]
B[fg]BL[160.352];W[ig]WL[908.69];OB[3]B[ee]BL[118.505];W[de]WL[902.231];OB[2]B[kg]
BL[98.627];W[lg]WL[899.397];OB[1]B[hf]BL[97.653];W[hg]WL[898.026];OB[10]B[gg]BL[300]
;W[ad]WL[861.941];OB[9]B[io]BL[275.546];W[ip]WL[858.586];OB[8]B[im]BL[272.444];W[hn]
WL[857.072];OB[7]B[ac]BL[244.645];W[fd]WL[843.587];OB[6]B[gc]BL[218.446];W[ea]WL[833.863]
;OB[5]B[da]BL[214.971];W[fa]WL[832.722];OB[4]B[jl]BL[188.465];W[oa]WL[770.239];OB[3]
B[na]BL[186.029];W[pa]WL[769.274];OB[2]B[ma]BL[172.363];W[eh]WL[765.449];OB[1]B[ij]
BL[155.605];W[in]WL[754.439];OB[10]B[jn]BL[300];W[en]WL[753.036];OB[9]B[fj]BL[291.288]
;W[fi]WL[747.459];OB[8]B[gi]BL[271.164];W[fh]WL[743.549];OB[7]B[gh]BL[268.616];W[sn]
WL[726.72];OB[6]B[so]BL[264.858];W[jk]WL[721.604];OB[5]B[ff]BL[247.915]C[Chew [6k]: Thanks for the game, it was interesting
Chew [6k]: Wish I could count =/
]
;W[df]WL[660.825]C[Aphelion02 [6k]: chew just counted )
];OB[4]B[]BL[229.677]
;W[ka]WL[656.886];OB[3]B[]BL[214.483];W[]WL[656.884]TB[br][og][aa][ba][ca][bb][nb]
[mc][oc][nd][od][ge][oe][pe][pg][rg][ph][rh][sh][qi][ri][si][hj][gk][hk][al][bl]
[cl][dl][il][am][bm][jm][an][bn][ao][ap][bp][rp][aq][bq][lq][mq][nq][sq][ar][nr]
[or][pr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]TW[gr][hr][ir][sd][hs][is]
[js][ga][ia][qa][ra][sa][hb][jb][rb][sb][ic][rc][id][gs][jd][kd][ae][be][ce][ke]
[af][bf][lf][ag][bg][cg][ah][bh][ch][lh][mh][di][ji][li][mi][kj][lj][mj][nj][lk]
[mk][ll][ml][nl][mm][om][on][pm][qm][nn][pn][qn][eo][fo][go][oo][ep][gp][hp][fq]
[gq][iq]C[Nikolas73 [5k]: Thanks
Chew [6k]: Thanks
Nikolas73 [5k]: For some reason I think it's harder to count with AGA rules... kept on recounting to double-check ^^
Chew [6k]: Thought it was a bit closer than it waas =/
Chew [6k]: Also, forgot komi, which doesn't help
Nikolas73 [5k]: me too
Aphelion02 [6k]: how come
Nikolas73 [5k]: I was expecting within 5-10 points
Aphelion02 [6k]: its the same counting
Aphelion02 [6k]: doesn't make diff whether its area or territory
Aphelion02 [6k]: ur not going to be off by 1 pt
Aphelion02 [6k]: *more than
Nikolas73 [5k]: I know Aphelion, I just don't play with this ruleset too often.
Chew [6k]: I was pretty nervous about this game. I really wanted to win it, so I could play Shaddy even and fairly
Nikolas73 [5k]: I think dame is worth more than 1pt ko as well
Aphelion02 [6k]: nikolas, you can just pretend its territory
Aphelion02 [6k]: and it won't matter
Nikolas73 [5k]: ...play Shaddy even and fairly?
Nikolas73 [5k]: Uh-oh :p
Chew [6k]: He's next =D
Nikolas73 [5k]: right, Aphelion
Chew [6k]: Good luck =D
Nikolas73 [5k]: hehe, thanks
Chew [6k]: Doesn't help that I didn't see you could put K16 into atari =/
Nikolas73 [5k]: yeah, I wasn't expecting that
Nikolas73 [5k]: I thought you had traded it off to make sure corner lives
])
(;B[fn]C[Why not this??]))
(;B[kb];W[lc];B[lb]C[white is split.]))
(;W[hb]C[This was my first thought, but it's not good.];B[ic];W[ib];B[lc];W[mc]
;B[lb]C[This is why.])
(;W[ic]C[I think this is best, reducing black's liberties even further.]))
(;B[ic];W[kc];B[id]C[White still needs at least one eye. If you chase white out far enough, maybe you can get strong enough to R7 and hurt that group on the side.]))

[Chew Terr]

Daniel,

Thanks a lot for the review. It makes good sense. As far as your last question goes, I couldn't play the hane because white's prior move threatened D8. If I did the hane, white would either kill a large group of mine or connect out. and I could afford neither. Nikolas was being tricky with that aji.

[daniel_the_smith]

Oh, lol, you're right...