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by jeromie Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:56 pm
$$cm21 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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I think this move was in the wrong direction and a bit too far from the stone at M17, though overall this opening has favored black. I played far too many stones for the amount of territory I got in the upper left hand corner, and I'm not using whatever influence I gained well so far. Black has a lot of potential territory along the sides, though he is very flat and still susceptible to an invasion at a or b/c. It's tempting to play the invasion at a right away, but I think I can still live if he makes another move in that area and I can't let him take R13 or the game is basically over.
$$cm21 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm21 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komiI don't want my extension along the side to be similarly susceptible to invasion, so I'm only making a two point extension. I'm guessing black will play around c next, and then I'll have to decide whether to invade at a (or a nearby point) right away. I'm trying to decide whether an invasion on the 3rd line gives black too much influence. I know I can live, but at what cost?
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by EdLee Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:07 pm
Hmm,
missed the (a) direction, twice —
first on
, and again on
:
$$m21
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$m21There is an older thread — not sure if it can be easily searched for —
with some interesting discussion about the (a) versus (b) direction:
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by jeromie Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:29 pm
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by EdLee Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:48 pm
jeromie wrote: my best chance is <snip> try to make territory on the center.
For this board, unclear if this is the best strategy, for either side.
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by awef Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:05 pm
Sorry, jeromie, didn't see that you had moved.
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by Uberdude Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:23 pm
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by jeromie Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:55 pm
No problem, awef. This is the first week of classes (I'm a teacher), so it's probably good that I took the weekend off of this game.
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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I looked at the bottom around L3 and top around J17, but as far as I can tell black needs to respond locally to this reply or he will get a bad result. That means I can play this in sente to stabilize my right side group before attacking the weaknesses on the top and bottom.
If black ignores this:
$$c awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$c awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komiBlack's potential in the center is severely damaged and white's is significantly increased.
Edit: Fixed grammar.
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by awef Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:17 pm
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by jeromie Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:06 pm
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komiI primarily considered moves in the shaded area, especially J16 and L16, though I did look at a (makes L16 much more playable because more ladders work for me, helps keep black from reducing by extending from the left side, and threatens a nice follow up at d), b (this bottom weakness is still big), and c (one more move here would make my territory on the right side much bigger). Ultimately I decided that now is the time to attack the weakness on the top... if black gets to solidify that area the game looks very bad for white.
I chose the shoulder hit because I want outside influence, and while I can separate his stones with K16 black will get a nice outside wall in the process. Almost decided to switch to the star point at the last minute, but decided it was better to go with my initial instinct.
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by awef Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:50 am
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by jeromie Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:21 pm
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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Continuing to try and get rid of black's center potential while building white's influence.
Extending in the other direction give black a nice hane at the head of two stones:
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komiLikely follow ups:
Simple:
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komiComplex fighting to follow! (Though I'm not entirely sure I'd make this move 38. There might be a simple move that works for white.)
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by awef Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:09 am
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by jeromie Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:40 pm
$$cm31 awef(B) v jeromie(W) 6.5 komi
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by skydyr Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:50 pm
@jeromie
jeromie wrote: I get the wall I wanted; I'm content with this. I looked at playing D12 first, but I can't ignore black to follow up if he hanes at H16. Getting this solid wall first is important for white. I'm expecting a play on the left side around D12 or a play on the bottom, which is still big for both of us..
I may have missed this earlier, but what do you plan to do with the wall?
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by jeromie Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:09 pm
skydyr wrote: @jeromie
jeromie wrote: I get the wall I wanted; I'm content with this. I looked at playing D12 first, but I can't ignore black to follow up if he hanes at H16. Getting this solid wall first is important for white. I'm expecting a play on the left side around D12 or a play on the bottom, which is still big for both of us..
I may have missed this earlier, but what do you plan to do with the wall?
missed the (a) direction, twice —
, and again on 
: