Not sure Crazy Stone 2013 will do better than 1 dan on your father's configuration. Depends on the way MCTS is implemented ; could also be slow.
As an alternate you may consider the Crazy Stone game go server proposed by unbalance. It implements the last version of CS on an eight core CPU. Is is announced at 5 dan KGS.
Is is available through an 'engine server mode' in the champion go app on IOS and android, on a pay for play basis. It might also be available on the PC version (but not sure).
I don't k know if you can have paid access without buying one of these, but the price are low on iOS and android (there is an entry edition app on IOS which is even free).
Other strong engine, to test on your configuration: Fuego (free)
http://fuego.sourceforge.net
to install with gogui
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Re: Considering purchasing crazy stone 2013
pleiade67 wrote:Not sure Crazy Stone 2013 will do better than 1 dan on your father's configuration. Depends on the way MCTS is implemented ; could also be slow.
OK, the first thing to keep reminding ourselves (those of us not computer professionals) is for example) that (real) time trades with crunch power <<Given enough time a "Turing Machine" can compute anything computble. Some of the programs (MFOG 12 for example) at the start take the time allowed per move and an analysis of the hardware to determine how many playouts can be used. With others you set the number of playouts and that determines how much real time is used per move. So.......
1) Comparing programs we must adjust so that they are not only on the same hardware but using the same amount of time.
2) MFOG 12 might be able to play somewhat stronger than 1 dan on that hardware if allowed to use more time per move. Your father might not care for that but should at least make the experiment to find out. If the current time setting is "30 minutes for all moves" << I think that's the default >> try two hours. It will then probably use about 30-40 seconds per move.
pleiade67 wrote:As an alternate you may consider the Crazy Stone game go server proposed by unbalance. It implements the last version of CS on an eight core CPU. Is is announced at 5 dan KGS.[/quote
If somebody is asking you about the properties of brands of cars it isn't relevant to discuss the properties of motorcycles. There is presumably a reason here why playing on-line isn't being used, why being asked about a program that can run on the local hardware. That needs to be considered to be a requirement of the question.pleiade67 wrote:Other strong engine, to test on your configuration: Fuego (free)
http://fuego.sourceforge.net
to install with gogui
I don't think necessary to test any programs weaker than MFOG 12. Even though the latest version of MFOG is almost four years old I'm pretty sure fuego hasn't quite caught up to it. What's the strongest bot using fuego on KGS and what is it running on?
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Re: Considering purchasing crazy stone 2013
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A game I played on the Ipad CrazyStone Server, 9H. I was about 9kyu last time I played regularly in KGS.
Nice win, previous dozen or so games I was soundly beaten. Maybe CS resigned too soon.
Dudoso
PS: I read about how to post sgf as diagram, but got error message :S
A game I played on the Ipad CrazyStone Server, 9H. I was about 9kyu last time I played regularly in KGS.
Nice win, previous dozen or so games I was soundly beaten. Maybe CS resigned too soon.
Dudoso
PS: I read about how to post sgf as diagram, but got error message :S
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