So yesterday I posted a game and a question about scoring, and user EdLee very nicely critiqued my play. It was very useful and so I decided to keep notes of my next game. And while I was reviewing the notes, I thought I'd ask you guys to review this game and maybe also my thought process? I got pretty lucky to lose for as little as I did in this one, I think. Thanks in advance!
Critique how I make my decisions
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Re: Critique how I make my decisions
Is this a computer program you are playing? If so I strongly recommend discontinuing its use as its moves are not good and will not teach you anything.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
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Hi Hokie,
Your SGF link did not display your game correctly here on the forum; I don't know why. Did it work for you ?
It's a good idea to preview or double check an SGF link actually displays the game correctly in your post here.
I prefer to embed the actual SGF text here directly; this way even if the external website disappears, the SGF is still here, so it's one less point of potential failure.
Here's your SGF directly:
(Local time Sat Dec 13, 2014. 10:22 am )
Your SGF link did not display your game correctly here on the forum; I don't know why. Did it work for you ?
It's a good idea to preview or double check an SGF link actually displays the game correctly in your post here.
I prefer to embed the actual SGF text here directly; this way even if the external website disappears, the SGF is still here, so it's one less point of potential failure.
Here's your SGF directly:
(Local time Sat Dec 13, 2014. 10:22 am )
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Hi Hokie,
Did you consider just block at D12 ? It'd be consistent with your previous moves to build a wall toward the center.
did you consider just block at E11 ?
ponnuki. good.
just connect at Q6. Same shape problem as your last game. See the same link as before: Toothpaste
See your moves
and
of your last game.
Big mistake. You must connect at Q6, only move. Exactly the same shape problem as
. 
White must connect at Q6 and destroy your shape here, only move. Exactly the same mistake as
in your previous game.
See your moves
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Re: Critique how I make my decisions
Yes. It's the window's version of Aya 6.34. I had two day long meetings this week so I whipped it out at work. At home I'm almost always playing against gnugo. I have never played against a real human although I've created accounts at IGS, KGS and DGS to achieve that. I just learned the game last week so I wanted to get a hold of the basics before I subjected real humans to the pain of playing meDrStraw wrote:Is this a computer program you are playing? If so I strongly recommend discontinuing its use as its moves are not good and will not teach you anything.
Interesting, it does work for me, but I'll take note and copy the sgf contents directly next time.EdLee wrote:Hi Hokie,
Your SGF link did not display your game correctly here on the forum; I don't know why. Did it work for you ?
It's a good idea to preview or double check an SGF link actually displays the game correctly in your post here.
I prefer to embed the actual SGF text here directly; this way even if the external website disappears, the SGF is still here, so it's one less point of potential failure.
I did consider it, but I think I was thinking that maybe I didn't need to respond to it immediately and that it would be better worth my time to extend at the top. Good to know that I should have stuck to my initial instincts that it was something I needed to deal with.EdLee wrote:Did you consider just block at D12 ? It'd be consistent with your previous moves to build a wall toward the center.
Not at all, actually. My only consideration was to connect those two stones. That's a good point though. Blocking would have been a better choice.EdLee wrote:did you consider just block at E11 ?
Glad you commented on it. Didn't know it was called that (now reading that shape on SL) and was at first not sure if I was making the right decision by going with a few diamonds there.EdLee wrote:ponnuki. good.
I did start reading that link today but I'll study it even more attentively as it is obviously a weak spot of mine.EdLee wrote:just connect at Q6. Same shape problem as your last game. See the same link as before: Toothpaste
See your movesand
of your last game.
This is good to hear. Sometimes when I focus on long chains, I wonder if I'm wasting time.EdLee wrote:Big mistake. You must connect at Q6, only move. Exactly the same shape problem as
.
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Heh. Guess Aya has the same blind spot?EdLee wrote:White must connect at Q6 and destroy your shape here, only move. Exactly the same mistake as
in your previous game.
Very helpful again, Ed. Thank you!
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Hi Hokie,
Finally.
Too small. Why do you care about that one
stone ?
bad wedge. After you connect with
, W can just connect his cut on the outside (
at N12 ) -- the net result is you fixed W's weakness here, you forced W to become stronger. In contrast, your 2 stones,
and
, are useless -- they are not doing anything but only take up neutral space.
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Re: Critique how I make my decisions
Where are you? The handle you have chosen almost makes it sounds like you are at Virginia Tech. If so, you should go to the club there.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
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Re: Critique how I make my decisions
I'm an alumni. I graduated in 2006.DrStraw wrote:Where are you? The handle you have chosen almost makes it sounds like you are at Virginia Tech. If so, you should go to the club there.
But thank you for the invite!
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EdLee wrote:Finally.
Hmm. so my thinking here was that I was feeling like my chains there were being surrounded from the center byEdLee wrote:Too small. Why do you care about that one
stone ?
Looking up wedge on SL. Interesting. I'll have to study these moves more closely. My aim was to not allow his stones to connect (which is called a wedge, I have now learned) but, although it was obvious onceEdLee wrote:bad wedge. After you connect with
, W can just connect his cut on the outside (
at N12 ) -- the net result is you fixed W's weakness here, you forced W to become stronger. In contrast, your 2 stones,
and
, are useless -- they are not doing anything but only take up neutral space.
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Then you were there when I played my last tournament there, in 2005. You started too late.HokieGeek wrote:I'm an alumni. I graduated in 2006.DrStraw wrote:Where are you? The handle you have chosen almost makes it sounds like you are at Virginia Tech. If so, you should go to the club there.
But thank you for the invite!
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).