56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Chew Terr wrote:...
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There was a game on the Commodore 64 called 'Spy vs. Spy' where you could play those two guys from the MAD magazine with two Joysticks and set up traps and stuff for each other. Anyone old enough to remember that? Here's a little help for your memory in case you need it:
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Spongebob:
I think I remember there being an NES game, as well. I played much more NES than Commodore 64.
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Not for the players:

I am quite reluctant to post this for fear of one of the players accidentally opening the hidden text, but I do wonder whether they (one or both) realize that not all parts of the board are as settled as they seem.
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Chew Terr: your comment i am waiting to see. you already got 4 likes...
i have a feeling that it is not due to your analysis of the game. :)

i tried to save the stones but...it doesnt matter how i connect.. it leaves bad aji.
if i let him cut..at least i wont have aji to worry about on my territory (may be a little)
from what i read..he can not capture me cleanly so basically i am alive.
also i can protect my bottom by peeping in sente. this really attracted

two stone atari is my trap.
i am waiting for him to move that two stone because it is not a ladder.
but i will play even if it is not a ladder. i am thinking he will lose because he will give me big side and stablize all of my groups
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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My predection for next move by Violence. It connects underneath to the west or it cuts off some of the stones to its northwest. I haven't read deeply enough to know if it has enough liberties when it does.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . W . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Vg jvyy or irel vagrerfgvat gb frr ubj Juvgr unaqyrf gur pragre tebhc. Nf J, V jbhyq gel gb nggnpx S6 gb frggyr (gur orfg qrsrafr vf bssrafr), naq vqrnyyl raq hc jvgu fragr.
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Araban wrote:
Vg jvyy or irel vagrerfgvat gb frr ubj Juvgr unaqyrf gur pragre tebhc. Nf J, V jbhyq gel gb nggnpx S6 gb frggyr (gur orfg qrsrafr vf bssrafr), naq vqrnyyl raq hc jvgu fragr.



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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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For anyone confused:
They're moving each letter in their comments by 13 places.

You can use this website to decode.

http://rot13.com/
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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˙ɹɟǝqظ ɹo bʎɥqd bʌ
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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fwiffo wrote:
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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I sure hope rot13ing one's thoughts doesn't become standard... :/
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

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daniel_the_smith wrote:
I sure hope rot13ing one's thoughts doesn't become standard... :/

It's horribly insecure compared to the double rot13 we've been using so far, but then araban got lazy...
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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

Post by Violence »

Sorry, I had business to attend to all of today.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think victory is within arm's reach.

Ok... after I've done some reading... I'm pretty confident that this can't end well for him.

Maybe... he'll soon understand.

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Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

Post by mitsun »

Going back a few moves (not for players) ...
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . e . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . d . X . . X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X a . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O b . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O c . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This B move looks like the wrong direction. B is already reasonably thick and safe in the center, while both sides are thin below. Maybe B is expecting to trick W somehow, but if W just ignores this atari, he gets to move first in the more critical fight below. I think any of the marked moves would leave B with the advantage in this fight, but if W gets to play first, it could go either way.
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