#252 djllap vs topazg

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Thu May 21, 2015 2:25 pm

Will have a brief think on this one

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I've marked the areas of interest to me. "a" is my choice if it's sente against his group, and that's why I'm taking a bit of time to think. If it's not, I'll probably opt for "b". If it is sente, then one of "e" is a useful followup, but I'm not sure which (and not really thinking hard about it until I've decided whether to play "a"). "c" is almost definitely sente because of the threat of peeping at "d", and gives me 4th line points as well as connecting nicely to the marked stone. However, it may make "a" not sente, so it could be sort of aji keshi too. "f" is also big, but I'd want to follow it with "g", and as it's gote, I'm more interested in playing "b" first.

So, yeah, lots to think about!

EDIT: Also, "a" is rather a nice point for him, so unless I get really good value for "i" (it could precede "f" and "g"), I might want to play it simply for the reason we both like it.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Thu May 21, 2015 2:46 pm

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DJLLAP · Post by **DJLLAP** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:51 pm

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri May 22, 2015 12:22 am

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DJLLAP · Post by **DJLLAP** » Fri May 22, 2015 12:29 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri May 22, 2015 1:05 am

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Relatively happy here. More points. This is the expectation:

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If White omits :w36:

then "a" is really quite painful. If he doesn't then I'm thinking what plans to make for the rest of the gain. "b" followed by "c" (or the 3-3 if he takes "c"), "d", "e" and "f" are all big. I could also build a plan around the "x" area, but to be honest I'm tempted to just make more points, as the game burden of demonstrating the value of the results so far lies more in White's hands than Black's. (By which I mean White has chosen a lot of moves that have left Black with points locally in exchange for influence and potential - if I keep increasing the number of points I have, it's up to White to come up with a plan to catch back up - psychologically, I'm feeling quite favourably towards playing that way here).

EDIT: The way he's chosen to play this corner rather increases the temperature of "g" again, as the influence over the box I've labelled "y" could become significant. It's that more than anything that might persuade me to take "g" myself, or handle the "x" area directly. Of course the "b" + "c" exchange helps too, but I'm somewhat wondering if he would respond to "b" with "c" now and put his faith in a large moyo

DJLLAP · Post by **DJLLAP** » Fri May 22, 2015 1:07 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri May 22, 2015 1:12 am

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DJLLAP · Post by **DJLLAP** » Fri May 22, 2015 1:24 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri May 22, 2015 1:30 am

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DJLLAP · Post by **DJLLAP** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:11 am

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Uberdude · Post by **Uberdude** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:14 am

A few comments:

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This black 17 is too passive IMO. a was my first thought, and checking pro games I see this played once, and also the more excitingb.

But then I don't like white's 18 etc. He takes gote to get 4 inside stones whilst black gets 2 outside stones. Yes this settles his group, but black's right side is significantly strengthened (and with q-r-s-t press for later the invasion at b looks hard). White can now play a, but black can just answer underneath now and white's group feels rather overconcentrated.

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I would prefer to play a lighter, more flexible move, perhaps this aiming at a and b:

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If black attaches to stop white pressing him down, it makes white get stronger on the outside, and white has better outwards facing influence that in the game (but 21 crosscut might be fun):

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If black just defends with the knight's move, white could tenuki to the top left as it's not so easy to severely attack the group I think, or make shape at a or b. If black plays kosumi rather than knights move then the a attach doesn't work so well, but it leaves a 3 space gap (though perhaps less of a problem given the pressing sequence above). Also directly playing b looks quite nice for w18.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm18 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . b . . 1 . a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

And black's approach at top left is good, no need to keep playing on white's group, its own inefficiency is punishment enough for now (but 17 slack too so not sure who I prefer overall).

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:54 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . 3 X X . 5 . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . 1 O O O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Uberdude · Post by **Uberdude** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:58 am

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Fri May 22, 2015 4:37 am

Uberdude wrote:
Hoping/expected black to play d14 is hoping he is a pathetic loser.

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