Tenuki grammar

General conversations about Go belong here.
User avatar
wineandgolover
Lives in sente
Posts: 866
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:05 am
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 318 times
Been thanked: 345 times

Tenuki grammar

Post by wineandgolover »

How would you conjugate the word teunki, assuming we can reasonably use it as a verb?

Present tense:
I tenuki
You tenuki
He/she tenukies
We tenuki
you tenuki
They tenuki

Past tense:
I/you/he/she/we/you/they tenukied


Please note I would rather not write, "I play tenuki" and conjugate the word play. That gets boring in subtitles.

Thanks.
- Brady
Want to see videos of low-dan mistakes and what to learn from them? Brady's Blunders
User avatar
EdLee
Honinbo
Posts: 8859
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:49 pm
GD Posts: 312
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Has thanked: 349 times
Been thanked: 2070 times

Post by EdLee »

Yes. :)

Not to be confused with this guy:
image.jpg
image.jpg (28.84 KiB) Viewed 11440 times
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by DrStraw »

Well, it is not a verb. Not even in Japanese. So it cannot be conjugated. Also, given that Japanese words do not change their form I would have to say that if you are going to use it as a verb then it shold remain unchanged and if you really want to emphasize person and tense then you must use a form such as He played tenuki.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
User avatar
daal
Oza
Posts: 2508
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:30 am
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 1304 times
Been thanked: 1128 times

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by daal »

wineandgolover wrote:How would you conjugate the word teunki, assuming we can reasonably use it as a verb?

Present tense:
I tenuki
You tenuki
He/she tenukies
We tenuki
you tenuki
They tenuki

Past tense:
I/you/he/she/we/you/they tenukied


Please note I would rather not write, "I play tenuki" and conjugate the word play. That gets boring in subtitles.

Thanks.


Whether tenuki is a verb in Japanese or not, in English we use it as one, and your conjugation sounds fine. If you want to avoid the tiresome discussion about the misuse of foreign words, you could use "play away" or "play elsewhere." Who said subtitles need to be exciting?

DrStraw wrote: Also, given that Japanese words do not change their form I would have to say that if you are going to use it as a verb then it shold remain unchanged


He tenuki, I tarzan.
Patience, grasshopper.
User avatar
Bonobo
Oza
Posts: 2223
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:39 pm
Rank: OGS 9k
GD Posts: 0
OGS: trohde
Universal go server handle: trohde
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 8262 times
Been thanked: 924 times
Contact:

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by Bonobo »

I google, therefore I also tenuki :)
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dali ★ Play a slooooow correspondence game with me on OGS? :)
User avatar
EdLee
Honinbo
Posts: 8859
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:49 pm
GD Posts: 312
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Has thanked: 349 times
Been thanked: 2070 times

Post by EdLee »

Bonobo wrote:I google, therefore I also tenuki :)
Funny, I also thought of google in this regard, a few hours before your post. :)



Slightly off-topic:
Not to mention to Kirby Delauter . (w/ easter egg)
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by DrStraw »

Bonobo wrote:I google, therefore I also tenuki :)


There is your problem! Googling is dangerous. You should startpage.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
User avatar
Bonobo
Oza
Posts: 2223
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:39 pm
Rank: OGS 9k
GD Posts: 0
OGS: trohde
Universal go server handle: trohde
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 8262 times
Been thanked: 924 times
Contact:

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by Bonobo »

DrStraw wrote:
Bonobo wrote:I google, therefore I also tenuki :)


There is your problem!
Nope, no problem here :)

Googling is dangerous. You should startpage.

Well, that seems quite impossible since I always launch my browser with three windows and an insane number of tabs (as if three windows weren’t already insane) :)

But I notice that you apparently visit the internet with a typewriter or perhaps rather a Telex device — two spaces after a full stop … that explains a lot ;-) Loading a page must be terribly loud, though …
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dali ★ Play a slooooow correspondence game with me on OGS? :)
User avatar
EdLee
Honinbo
Posts: 8859
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:49 pm
GD Posts: 312
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Has thanked: 349 times
Been thanked: 2070 times

Post by EdLee »

You should startpage.
Bonobo, I can't parse this; what is startpage ?
User avatar
oca
Lives in gote
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:53 am
Rank: DDK
GD Posts: 0
KGS: aco
IGS: oca
OGS: oca
Location: Switzerland
Has thanked: 485 times
Been thanked: 166 times

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by oca »

I only need to know how to conjugate one verb at the first person for the moment
I resign ;)
Converting the book Shape UP! by Charles Matthews/Seong-June Kim
to the gobook format. last updated april 2015 - Index of shapes, p.211 / 216
User avatar
HermanHiddema
Gosei
Posts: 2011
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:08 am
Rank: Dutch 4D
GD Posts: 645
Universal go server handle: herminator
Location: Groningen, NL
Has thanked: 202 times
Been thanked: 1086 times

Re: Tenuki grammar

Post by HermanHiddema »

User avatar
Bonobo
Oza
Posts: 2223
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:39 pm
Rank: OGS 9k
GD Posts: 0
OGS: trohde
Universal go server handle: trohde
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 8262 times
Been thanked: 924 times
Contact:

Re:

Post by Bonobo »

EdLee wrote:
You should startpage.
Bonobo, I can't parse this; what is startpage ?

You’d have to ask the good doctor for this to be sure, but I’d assume it means “the” page we can set to load when starting a browser (or opening a new window or tab). For me, that’s about a dozen tabs in three windows which I regularly reload.
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dali ★ Play a slooooow correspondence game with me on OGS? :)
User avatar
HermanHiddema
Gosei
Posts: 2011
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:08 am
Rank: Dutch 4D
GD Posts: 645
Universal go server handle: herminator
Location: Groningen, NL
Has thanked: 202 times
Been thanked: 1086 times

Re: Re:

Post by HermanHiddema »

Bonobo wrote:
EdLee wrote:
You should startpage.
Bonobo, I can't parse this; what is startpage ?

You’d have to ask the good doctor for this to be sure, but I’d assume it means “the” page we can set to load when starting a browser (or opening a new window or tab). For me, that’s about a dozen tabs in three windows which I regularly reload.


Startpage is a search engine, an alternative to google, so DrStraw is just verbing it the same way you verbed google :)
User avatar
Bonobo
Oza
Posts: 2223
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:39 pm
Rank: OGS 9k
GD Posts: 0
OGS: trohde
Universal go server handle: trohde
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 8262 times
Been thanked: 924 times
Contact:

Re: Re:

Post by Bonobo »

HermanHiddema wrote:[..]

Startpage is a search engine, an alternative to google, so DrStraw is just verbing it the same way you verbed google :)

Oh … OK, thanks for educating me! :)

<edit>

And thanks for the hint to DrStraw :-)

</edit>
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dali ★ Play a slooooow correspondence game with me on OGS? :)
DrStraw
Oza
Posts: 2180
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am
Rank: AGA 5d
GD Posts: 4312
Online playing schedule: Every tenth February 29th from 20:00-20:01 (if time permits)
Location: ʍoquıɐɹ ǝɥʇ ɹǝʌo 'ǝɹǝɥʍǝɯos
Has thanked: 237 times
Been thanked: 662 times
Contact:

Re:

Post by DrStraw »

EdLee wrote:
You should startpage.
Bonobo, I can't parse this; what is startpage ?


A search engine which does not store everything you search for and sell the information to the world.
Still officially AGA 5d but I play so irregularly these days that I am probably only 3d or 4d over the board (but hopefully still 5d in terms of knowledge, theory and the ability to contribute).
Post Reply