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(;ST[2]CA[UTF-8]GM[1]AP[GOWrite:2.3.46]SZ[19]FF[4]OT[10/600 Canadian]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]PB[Andrew Kay]RU[Japanese]BR[4d]PM[2]TM[3\:00\:00]GN[BGA Championship 2015 - game 2]C[BGATeach \[-\]\: Hi I am here. Will set up the clone
BGAadmin \[-\]\: ok, great
BGATeach \[-\]\: Clone is there, I will bw driving it until the end of the game or 7pm, whichever is sooner
BGATeach \[-\]\: To see the real game, stay here. To see chat and variations look at the clone.
BGATeach \[-\]\: Morning Matt. How are the players looking?]FG[259:]KM[7.50]WR[4d]PW[Andrew Simons]DT[2015-12-12]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: game has now started]B[pp]
;W[dd]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: players very relaxed going into the game
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Kay playing black, sitting to my left
kisekigo\: Are you recording sideways or did B start in the wrong corner?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Simons sitting to my right
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I'm recording sideways for ease of recording
BGAadmin \[-\]\: so B move 1 was correct \:)]B[dp]
;W[qd]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Kay dressed smartly in suit again
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewS more casual
CageyS \[?\]\: Is everyone in Britain called Andrew?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: if you want to be champion you have to change your name to Andrew \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: please note that there is a live commentary of the game also
BGAadmin \[-\]\: look for the 'BGATeach' game in the British Room
resusou\: too slow]B[od]
;W[mc]
;C[resusou\: you should play more time in middle game
Rottamies \[1d\]\: ?
sfsgfsgf\: Do these guys play in the same club?]B[qc]
;W[qg]
;C[Rottamies \[1d\]\: how to find bgateach?]B[pd]
;W[rd]
;C[Rottamies \[1d\]\: and the british room..
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: clrl-F then type in the name
Rottamies \[1d\]\: ok
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: Rooms menu
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: it's under National
Rottamies \[1d\]\: tx
ranyee \[3k\]\: is it real timelimit shown?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: time limits are 3 hours main time, plus 10 stones in 10 minutes after that
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: real time limit, but it doesn't change because this is a relay
BGAadmin \[-\]\: we will seal a move at 12\;50 GMT for lunch]B[ob]
;W[jc]
;B[rc]
;W[qj]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: and we will then resume around 14\:00 GMT
bert \[?\]\: good morning]B[cf]
;W[fd]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]C[ranyee \[3k\]\: what is the prise pool?]
;B[bd]
;W[dc]
;B[bb]
;W[cb]
;B[bc]
;W[fq]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: erm... not quite sure actually! apart from keeping the trophy for 1 year!
bert \[?\]\: the winner gets the right to kgs warfreak2 account for the next year
BGAadmin \[-\]\: just a remininder for anyone who has just joined - there is live commentary of this game by Matthew Macfadyen\; see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Kay taking longer on this move
BGAadmin \[-\]\: he's played very fast up to now
BGAadmin \[-\]\: just put a photo on my Twitter\: https\://twitter.com/marshmn]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: both players concentrating on the board very much at the moment
Hellblom \[4k\]\: What else do the usally do? \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: depends if they get bored waiting for the other player to move \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: sometimes they get up and have a walk around, but none of that so far
BGAadmin \[-\]\: still early days \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: just a reminder for those here, that there is a live commentary on this game also
BGAadmin \[-\]\: see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that]B[hq]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[eq]
;W[cn]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: flurry of moves there to play out the joseki
BGAadmin \[-\]\: what does everyone think of the game so far?]
;C[flowbender \[2k\]\: boring ? \;)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: who is winning?
flowbender \[2k\]\: end of the opening
ranyee \[3k\]\: w should reduce\\invade bottom? its going to be realy big
Dantek \[1k\]\: b is solid
Dantek \[1k\]\: waiting for w in the bottom
Dantek \[1k\]\: situat
flowbender \[2k\]\: seems to be equals
flowbender \[2k\]\: but i prefer black
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewS is concentrating on the lower side/lower-right corner]B[qn]
;W[pr]
;C[leachy \[2k\]\: goooo warfreak! \;)
U \[?\]\: plz win for once w
BGAadmin \[-\]\: if black wins this game, he will retain the British Championship title\; if white wins there will need to be a decider
ranyee \[3k\]\: isnt it to low? after w living b's center influence would be too much
U \[?\]\: b has a bad attitude when hes on kgs so itd be nice if he can stop winning everything
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white now used 30 minutes of his clock, black just 14 minutes of his
BGAadmin \[-\]\: still plenty of time remaining \:)
nonosse \[2k?\]\: wow b is warfreak2 , that's cool
nonosse \[2k?\]\: who is w on kgs?
TobyM \[1d?\]\: Please note that Matthew Macfadyen is giving a commentary on this game using "BGATeach"
BGAadmin \[-\]\: a reminder again that there is a live commentary of this game by Matthew Macfadyen\; see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that]B[qq]
;W[mq]
;C[kisekigo\: w is Uberdude
TobyM \[1d?\]\: Oops! Serendipity!
BGAadmin \[-\]\: ah, Toby beat me to it \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: how is the commentary going?
TobyM \[1d?\]\: It is good
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: lots of comment
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: s
kisekigo\: Matthew doing a good job with answering questions and nplaying variations]B[kq]
;W[qr]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: great]
;C[ranyee \[3k\]\: they play fast for such timelimit
TurtleDove \[5k\]\: 20 time winner. he should know what'sinvolved
nonosse \[2k?\]\: is uberdude this player who was strong in email go games with lot of time?
TurtleDove \[5k\]\: yes
nonosse \[2k?\]\: i see, thx
BGAadmin \[-\]\: in the last game, there was a significant amount of play during overtime
BGAadmin \[-\]\: the total game time was around 8 hours
BGAadmin \[-\]\: so will be interesting to see if today's game lasts that long \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewK making use of his fan whilst he waits for AndrewS to move]B[rr]
;W[oq]C[SIkachnak \[?\]\: p3 really the shape?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: that's what he's played
leachy \[2k\]\: you've got to be wary of b o2
SIkachnak \[?\]\: i am not questioning the scriber's sight, just the move¨\:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: it's allways worth checking I got it right \:)]
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;B[mo]
;W[no]C[SIkachnak \[?\]\: this also pretty suspicious as direction,
BGAadmin \[-\]\: for white you mean?
SIkachnak \[?\]\: black
SIkachnak \[?\]\: n5
SIkachnak \[?\]\: black cant even o4
SIkachnak \[?\]\: playing elsewhere would seem more appropriate
BGAadmin \[-\]\: his eyes are firmly focussed on the bottom-right at least]
;B[nn]
;W[oo]C[olyv \[7k\]\: p6?
SIkachnak \[?\]\: black is warfreak on kgs right?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: yes
SIkachnak \[?\]\: the legendary troll \:))]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: p6 it is
whitewbc \[8k\]\: then he should win
resusou\: i can't understand
BGAadmin \[-\]\: a reminder again that there is a live commentary of this game by Matthew Macfadyen\; see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has definitely slowed down a bit in the last few moves
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white has currently used around 52 mins, black 25 mins
BGAadmin \[-\]\: in the first game, white used up his main time a lot earlier than black and spent a significant period of time in overtime
toad \[9k\]\: wasn't white black then or what?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: yes, sorry -confusing \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I'm talking about Andrew Simons
BGAadmin \[-\]\: he was black in the first game and again used his time up earlier in the game - the same as with this game so far, where he's playing white
nonosse \[2k?\]\: imean q5 r5 q6
toad \[9k\]\: ruskies muscling in again
Nyanjilla \[-\]\: *ahem*
U \[?\]\: that game has quite the opening too from white
BGAadmin \[-\]\: quite a while since the last move now
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I assure you that everyone is still here \:)
BGATeach \[-\]\: How much time have they used?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewS deep in concentration
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewS (white) has used 1 hour 5 mins\; AndrewK (black) has used just 25 mins
BGAadmin \[-\]\: suggested next move?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewS hovering his hand over the white bowl there for a few seconds as though he was thinking of taking a move
BGAadmin \[-\]\: but then decided against it]B[on]
;W[po]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: so, q5 in the end
K5 \[5k?\]\: q6 looks needed here]B[qo]
;W[kr]C[K5 \[5k?\]\: M3?
SIkachnak \[?\]\: M3?!
SIkachnak \[?\]\: rather m2
K5 \[5k?\]\: Idea was to seal w in, e.g. M3 m3 N4 o2
K5 \[5k?\]\: Sorry, M3 m2 N4
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black gone to get some water whilst he thinks over this one
BGAadmin \[-\]\: nice and quiet here
BGAadmin \[-\]\: just the ticking of the clock
BGAadmin \[-\]\: definitely a slower part of the game so far
BGAadmin \[-\]\: still a big gap on the left side of the board
Prometey \[4k\]\: it's really hard desision?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: seems to be \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: a reminder for anyone joining us that there is a live commentary of this game by Matthew Macfadyen\; see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that
K5 \[5k?\]\: What are the options for black?
mogoyo\: hane or not hane]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: hane it is]B[lr]
;W[lq]
;C[mogoyo\: L3 and out]B[jr]
;W[kp]C[mogoyo\: L
mogoyo\: L4]
;C[mogoyo\: M5?
YoungPro \[-\]\: why the review is not at the top of active games
FryMe \[5k\]\: it's not even audio
mogoyo\: it is in my client
FryMe \[5k\]\: and it's not an active game
YoungPro \[-\]\: the review is with type.. which is better
YoungPro \[-\]\: fryme.. cuz you can watch it faster than listening..
YoungPro \[-\]\: life is time..]B[jq]
;W[pn]C[FryMe \[5k\]\: I've got plenty of time
mogoyo\: with left click you can change the order of games in room
mogoyo\: right clisk]
;B[pm]
;W[mn]C[resusou\: so N6cut for w
renkless \[9k\]\: m5?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I doubt it
BGAadmin \[-\]\: after white extends, black would need to protect the o6 stones
TobyM \[1d?\]\: Is lunch at 13\:00?
TobyM \[1d?\]\: or 12\:30?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: we are going to seal a move at 12\:50
TobyM \[1d?\]\: thanks
resusou\: thx
BGAadmin \[-\]\: the left side looks so big to me... is it not time to jump to there?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: but hey, what do I know \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black's clock slowly creeping up towards white's
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white has used 1 hour 15 mins, black 1 hour 5 mins
BGAadmin \[-\]\: 30 minutes until we seal a move and have a break for lunch]
;B[ql]
;W[mm]
;B[nl]
;W[ml]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: who do we think is winning at this point?]B[nk]
;W[qe]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewK shocked by white's move
LAhvac \[?\]\: me too \;-)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: both players having a bit of a giggle at it
Dantek \[1k\]\: b leading now then
Dantek \[1k\]\: after this slack move
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: sometimes the empty triangle is the correct move....
BGAadmin \[-\]\: he did do a little empty triangle dance as he made the move \:)
toad \[9k\]\: what does that look like?
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: video?
toad \[9k\]\: How many points would Craig Revell-H give it?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I could ask him to do it again after the game and video it - but I don't know if he would be willing \:)
toad \[9k\]\: Might depend on whether he wins
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: might depend on how the game goes...]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: it's now 12\:50 and so the next game will be sealed
BGATeach \[-\]\: Is this almost sealed move time?
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: next move...
BGAadmin \[-\]\: we will then return around 14\:00 for continuation
BGATeach \[-\]\: Ah you got the answer in first
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: sealing the next game would be awesome, though
BGAadmin \[-\]\: sorry, yes, next move \:)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: ok, AndrewS sealing his move now
BGAadmin \[-\]\: clocks pause at 1 hour 17 used for black, 1 hour 33 for white
BGAadmin \[-\]\: see you at 14\:00
toad \[9k\]\: ttfn
anton007 \[-\]\: Who is playing?
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: Andrew Simons and Andrew Kay
Dovery \[1d\]\: That attach looks weird
gogonuts \[4d\]\: r15 sure was slow
gogonuts \[4d\]\: g16 looks playable
gogonuts \[4d\]\: it's certainly kibitz-friendly \:-)
gogonuts \[4d\]\: i think i would have gone with c8 instead though
gogonuts \[4d\]\: because b looks promising overall, all g16 will make things pretty chaotic
gogonuts \[4d\]\: one thing i didnt like for b was o6 ect
gogonuts \[4d\]\: blocking doesnt do much because w already had a position on the right
gogonuts \[4d\]\: so n6 preferable to o6, imo
gogonuts \[4d\]\: and for w, i like q2 better at p2
wolokom \[5k\]\: g 17?
gogonuts \[4d\]\: because in the game b got a nice extension to L3
gogonuts \[4d\]\: hard to say, wolokom
gogonuts \[4d\]\: g17 h17 looks rather pleasant for b though
gogonuts \[4d\]\: so I dont think w will duck
gogonuts \[4d\]\: right now b looks more promising to me, despite the pain of n5 not being able to move
gogonuts \[4d\]\: when w sees g16, I think he will regret r15
power \[1k\]\: g18
Werfeus \[5d\]\: ahahahahaha r15
power \[1k\]\: lol
Werfeus \[5d\]\: i hope they will make fun of Simons for decades to come for that
BlackHole \[2k\]\: r15 new joseki for 4d
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: unless it turns out to be in just the right place
power \[1k\]\: can w play at the left now?
BlackHole \[2k\]\: g17
power \[1k\]\: f14
power \[1k\]\: c10
power \[1k\]\: so many moves to play
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: ....which is maybe why black played G16 just before the sealed move
gooooo \[?\]\: who are playing?
power \[1k\]\: w just f17? what would b do? f17 g15 looks bad for b
FoH \[-\]\: Andrew vs Andrew
FoH \[-\]\: and Andrew will win 4 sure
power \[1k\]\: Go Andrew!
SIkachnak \[?\]\: g17 h17 h16 g15 f15 looks simple enough
ranyee \[3k\]\: how much to resume?
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: soon
gogonuts \[4d\]\: Werfeus \[5d\]\: ahahahahaha r15 - a good way to put it \:-)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: hi all
BGAadmin \[-\]\: we are just about to start again]B[gd]
;W[gc]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: G17 was the sealed move]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 1 hour 22 mins remaining
BGAadmin \[-\]\: sorry
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 1 hour 42 mins remaining
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white has 1 hour 26 mins remaining
BGAadmin \[-\]\: hope you all had a good lunch - we did
BGAadmin \[-\]\: both the Andrews opted for the pork belly option
snowman \[-\]\: lunch pictures?
kisekigo\: did you go to the pub?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: ah, sorry, didn't take any photos
BGAadmin \[-\]\: we were at a little local restaurant
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: why not have an hour of rest/walk before resume?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: only soft drinks were consumed \:)
gogonuts \[4d\]\: like beer?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: nope, only juices
gogonuts \[4d\]\: misunderstood on purpose \:-)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: a reminder to those watching that Matthew Macfadyen is providing a live commentary of this game
SIkachnak \[?\]\: h16 g15 f15
BGAadmin \[-\]\: see the BGATeach game in the British Room for Matthew's live commentary
ranyee \[3k\]\: is it real game moves?
gogonuts \[4d\]\: they played different moves there
gogonuts \[4d\]\: ok, cleared up
BGAadmin \[-\]\: ranyee\: these are the live moves from the British Championship title match game
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Kay (black) is playing from the left, Andrew Simons from the right
BGAadmin \[-\]\: the main thing to note from lunch was that no-one dared to eat the black coloured bread from the selection they gave us
BGAadmin \[-\]\: apparently the colouring was from squid ink]B[hc]
;W[hd]C[Kountch \[1k\]\: Is it black bread for black players, and white bread for white players?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: it was black bread for no players
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: yum! squid ink!]
;B[id]
;W[ge]
;B[ic]
;W[kd]C[Dantek \[1k\]\: jump to center
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: too lazy after lunch
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: jump is morning move]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: that stone went down with quite a loud thwack
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: \:)
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: intimidation tactic
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Simons now leaning over the table studying it
sixdaneuro\: difficult for b to intimidate too much at top
SIkachnak \[?\]\: this looks like a bad shape
sixdaneuro\: it's a bit slow
sixdaneuro\: w c13 probably best
sixdaneuro\: b not strong enough locally for this to be not slow]B[hf]
;W[kf]C[sinojos \[10k\]\: care to rephrase that?
chansiukit \[1k\]\: h 15 for sure]
;C[theolddan \[2d\]\: g18 shows b wants h15
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white now has 1 hour remaining
theolddan \[2d\]\: only w has now maybe another choice
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 1 hour 30 mins remaining
theolddan \[2d\]\: like j15
theolddan \[2d\]\: he will get outside by this and b has to struugle
sixdaneuro\: sorry sino for my english
sixdaneuro\: it means... how to say
sixdaneuro\: slow is not efficient
sixdaneuro\: it means probably tenuki better
sixdaneuro\: like left side]B[gb]
;W[he]
;B[ie]
;W[if]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewK taking on board some nice chocolate cake provided by the hosts whilst he thinks about the next move
sixdaneuro\: g18 is greedy
sixdaneuro\: w will get too much outside now]
;B[jf]
;W[ig]
;B[ke]
;W[le]
;B[je]
;W[jg]
;B[ld]
;W[me]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: for those newly joining us\: there is a live commentary on this game, provided by Matthew Macfadyen\; see the BGATeach game in the British Room for that
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: i'ts at the top of the Active Games tab]
;B[kg]
;W[lf]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white now has 45 minutes of main time remaining]B[kc]
;W[md]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: black still has 1 hour 42 minutes]B[jd]
;W[kh]
;B[cl]
;W[dn]
;C[SIkachnak \[?\]\: w should exchange f18]B[ci]
;W[cg]
;B[dg]
;W[fb]C[DarthSanta \[4k\]\: good call]
;C[mihi \[5d?\]\: easy win for black
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white now has 30 minutes of main time remaining
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 1 hour 44 mins
sampo \[2k\]\: black gained 2 minutes?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: oh, sorry - my mistake
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 1 hour 14 minutes
BGAadmin \[-\]\: and on the previous time black had 1 hour 22 minutes - sorry, my bad]B[ch]
;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[eo]
;B[fr]
;W[dl]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white now with just 20 minutes of main time remaining]
;B[fn]
;W[gn]
;B[gm]
;W[ho]
;B[el]
;W[dk]
;B[hn]
;W[go]
;C[G361 \[10k\]\: j5]B[hm]
;W[io]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: black now with 1 hour remaining\; white has 15 minutes]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]C[Alife361 \[7k?\]\: w k7 is seemed too good, imho]
;B[gk]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[jm]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: a reminder for anyone who joined us recently that there is a live commentary of this game available - see the BGATeach game at the top of the active games tab
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white with 10 minutes main time remaining]B[ik]
;W[lb]
;B[kb]
;W[rk]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: both players now standing up to look at the board rather than sitting
sinojos \[10k\]\: who is taller?
toad \[9k\]\: obviously Alan Thornton has been teaching them
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I think Andrew Simons, though he just sat down so I'll have to measure them later
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white into the last 5 minutes of main time now
najuris \[3k\]\: could w have played h18 in sente before the m18 exchange? (because w m18 would then kill?)
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black still has just over 50 minutes remaining
sinojos \[10k\]\: what is byo timing?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: 10 stones in 10 minutes]B[rl]
;W[pk]
;B[qk]
;W[pj]
;B[nm]
;W[hb]
;B[ib]
;W[ga]
;B[lc]
;W[nb]
;B[oc]
;W[sc]
;B[sb]
;W[sd]
;B[qb]
;W[rj]
;B[mr]
;W[nr]
;B[jp]
;W[jo]C[morbidus\: this is a nice time setting, both main and byo yomi]
;B[pf]
;W[qf]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: black with 45 mins remaining\; white has a few seconds only
clydesdale \[3k\]\: john wayne
sinojos \[10k\]\: yes, nice times. but compared to normal kgs blitz mania, this is a bit like competitive paint drying]
;C[Alife361 \[7k?\]\: shell they have 5-o'clock?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white's time just ran out
BGAadmin \[-\]\: 1st period of overtime
Muttley \[2k\]\: white's ahead on the board by more than komi
clydesdale \[3k\]\: 60 sec byo-yomi?
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: Mutt, is there any chance of good ko?]B[nf]
;W[mh]C[sinojos \[10k\]\: way more, if se's assessment of K16 is correct \;-)]
;C[Muttley \[2k\]\: hehe \:)]B[li]
;W[lh]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: overtime is 10 stones in 10 mins
morbidus\: sinojos - that`s the problem of kgs and "blitz-maniacs" - if they prefer shooters, that`s they will..]
;C[Muttley \[2k\]\: ko
Bombadil \[6k\]\: seki]B[an]
;W[bo]C[Seagal \[1d\]\: rubbish]
;B[rs]
;W[hp]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: why is it rubbish instead of ko or seki ?
Muttley \[2k\]\: Because its Seagal
humblelife \[-\]\: w has 9 points of eyespace. it is hard to find a seki sequuence]B[hr]
;W[ek]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: well, if he tries hard enough
Muttley \[2k\]\: hard not to see this as macro yose time]B[fl]
;W[em]
;C[Muttley \[2k\]\: though w might fancy this group]B[fm]
;W[ck]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: ah, now i see the ko
Muttley \[2k\]\: b dying here would be most inconvenient]B[bk]
;W[gh]C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: guess you read this all muttley]
;C[Muttley \[2k\]\: lol \:))
Muttley \[2k\]\: I wish
Muttley \[2k\]\: I thought w would just use the aji of killing b on the left to connect, rather than risk a ko
Muttley \[2k\]\: this is much more aggressive]B[fj]
;W[eh]C[sinojos \[10k\]\: long rivals and friends. ko more honorable
Muttley \[2k\]\: ko it is, because its what b has unless he tries for unconditional life
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: Only Cap can make uncond life in such a small area....
clydesdale \[3k\]\: arr that be true
Muttley \[2k\]\: its not inconceivable, the key points are pretty clear
Bombadil \[6k\]\: h10 just doesn't look big enough, probably has to play that ko
Muttley \[2k\]\: but the ko will cost b I guess, which is why b would want to avoid it
Muttley \[2k\]\: actually b can try h12 first but it does cost]
;C[Muttley \[2k\]\: ok, ko it is
clydesdale \[3k\]\: here we go
BGAadmin \[-\]\: white has around 2 mins left of this overtime period, 1 stone to play
Bombadil \[6k\]\: c7 looks like the move]B[dm]
;W[cm]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white into 2nd overtime period]B[bl]
;W[di]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: living indepently would be good for black ?]B[gi]
;W[ce]C[power \[1k\]\: living is good for everyone
Bombadil \[6k\]\: b15 d14 b13 e13 perhaps]
;B[be]
;W[df]
;B[bg]
;W[eg]C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: now the ko isn't imprtant anymore
FryMe \[5k\]\: wasn't anyways
power \[1k\]\: there's some aji
FryMe \[5k\]\: unles sblack managed to cut white off]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: well, that was always a threat]B[hh]
;W[hg]C[FryMe \[5k\]\: I think he was happy with taking sente for whites connection
Feather \[8k\]\: how much time does black have?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 31 mins remaining
Feather \[8k\]\: thanks]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: AndrewK taking off his suit jacket for the first time]B[ef]
;W[hi]C[sinojos \[10k\]\: when he rolls up his sleeves we'll know he means business
DarthSanta \[4k\]\: *shock*
BGAadmin \[-\]\: sleeves still fully deployed]
;C[rollstory \[1k\]\: h12 bad i guess]B[fh]
;W[gg]C[rollstory \[1k\]\: h11 i mean
power \[1k\]\: e11
rollstory \[1k\]\: f13 before e11]
;C[power \[1k\]\: lets see
Bombadil \[6k\]\: now its ko again
rollstory \[1k\]\: e10
power \[1k\]\: all-in ko?
slim76 \[1d\]\: I think w will be ok anyway, because there's another ko at E7 for backup]B[ei]
;W[fg]
;B[dh]
;W[fi]C[power \[1k\]\: close game
power \[1k\]\: w+
Muttley \[2k\]\: ko
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: e10 is safe
BGAadmin \[-\]\: who has the most ko threats?]
;C[bert \[?\]\: me]B[ej]
;W[gj]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white into 3rd period of overtime
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: e7 is simple]
;C[power \[1k\]\: e7 slow
bert \[?\]\: heh hrh, e7 h9 f9 j8
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: agree]B[hj]
;W[em]
;C[power \[1k\]\: bert, e7 h9 j8 ?
bert \[?\]\: you dont see the double atari at f9?]B[gi]
;W[ii]C[power \[1k\]\: yeah]
;B[dm]
;W[rq]
;B[rp]
;W[em]
;B[ko]
;W[lp]
;C[Kountch \[1k\]\: M4 was better than L5
Bombadil \[6k\]\: why ?]B[dm]
;W[ms]C[Kountch \[1k\]\: I thought there were more threats
Bombadil \[6k\]\: so in fact it could also ne worse
BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 18 mins remaining now
bert \[?\]\: q15 and p13 look like good enough threats for w]
;B[em]
;W[ls]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: anyone counted ?
sinojos \[10k\]\: se says w+105 \:)]B[co]
;W[bp]C[bert \[?\]\: is b e1 sente against w corner?]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]C[Kountch \[1k\]\: SE is a killer]
;C[DarthSanta \[4k\]\: put not thy trust in SE
najuris \[3k\]\: w+5 approximately
Kountch \[1k\]\: Could not b live in sente by sacrifying L6?]B[js]
;W[db]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: 4th period of overtime for white]
;B[ds]
;W[br]
;B[de]
;W[pq]
;B[qp]
;W[kk]C[power \[1k\]\: w+8]
;B[mk]
;W[lk]
;B[jl]
;W[kl]
;B[im]
;W[jn]C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: b+1 ?]
;C[power \[1k\]\: w+10]B[mi]
;W[ni]
;B[nj]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[og]
;B[oi]
;W[nh]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: 5th period of overtime for white]B[oj]
;W[of]
;B[ne]
;W[bj]
;C[power \[1k\]\: w b19]B[cj]
;W[ee]
;B[df]
;W[ff]
;B[ph]
;W[qh]C[rsun \[-\]\: any 5d+ in the UK?]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: matthew ?]B[ks]
;W[jk]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: dunno if he still plays
power \[1k\]\: b19]B[il]
;W[ba]
;C[power \[1k\]\: q8]B[ep]
;W[ao]
;C[sinojos \[10k\]\: lol... se had B2 dead, now after A5, se has H2 dead. why?
rsun \[-\]\: se is not sth to be understood]B[dj]
;W[ol]
;B[op]
;W[np]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: 6th period of overtime for white]B[pl]
;W[ok]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: black has 10 mins remaining]B[om]
;W[sl]
;B[sm]
;W[sk]
;B[qi]
;W[ri]
;B[pi]
;W[pg]
;B[mg]
;W[lg]
;B[ij]
;W[ki]
;B[ji]
;W[gj]
;C[sixdaneuro\: white wins by about 5 with proper play]B[jj]
;W[kj]
;C[sixdaneuro\: difficult for w to lose from here]B[mj]
;W[gi]C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white into 7th period of overtime]
;B[jh]
;W[ih]
;B[ia]
;W[rm]C[sixdaneuro\: s7 is te ire later also]
;C[sixdaneuro\: weird
sixdaneuro\: not sure why he plays there, ko threat gone
najuris \[3k\]\: timesuji
Javaness \[2d\]\: convincing win for white
sixdaneuro\: yeah w+5
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: +1 point in sente
sixdaneuro\: home now
sixdaneuro\: it's not +1 point
sixdaneuro\: b needs fill
sixdaneuro\: te ire in dame
sixdaneuro\: m10/p12]B[sn]
;W[ha]
;B[la]
;W[mb]C[petroskyu \[?\]\: what time is lefy on the clocks]
;B[qs]
;W[ps]C[Javaness \[2d\]\: not important anymore]
;B[qm]
;W[lr]C[Alife361 \[7k?\]\: so w s7 was +1 point
sixdaneuro\: no]
;C[sixdaneuro\: read up
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: because b needs r7 (and he did
rsun \[-\]\: b needed s7 without s7]B[pe]
;W[cs]
;C[sixdaneuro\: s7 is worth extra point
sixdaneuro\: lol
fj \[5d?\]\: it would have been a point if W played S6 as well]B[es]
;W[am]
;C[rsun \[-\]\: good point, fj]B[fk]
;W[ip]
;C[sixdaneuro\: gg
Alife361 \[7k?\]\: +]B[iq]
;W[ma]
;B[ka]
;W[oa]
;C[BGAadmin \[-\]\: white in 8th period of overtime
sinojos \[10k\]\: K16 still dead \:)]B[pa]
;W[ab]
;C[sixdaneuro\: may as well stop clocks now
rsun \[-\]\: stop clock = resign
sixdaneuro\: lol]B[ac]
;W[ca]C[sixdaneuro\: well b should resign]
;B[an]
;W[na]
;B[am]
;W[aa]
;B[nd]
;W[ng]
;C[BGATeach \[-\]\: Give us the official score when you have it]B[mf]
;W[oh]
;C[power \[1k\]\: j6]B[nc]
;W[oe]
;C[Bombadil \[6k\]\: damefight
Malingo \[3d\]\: 3.5 for w ?]B[lj]
;W[km]
;C[morbidus\: +4.5
rsun \[-\]\: japanese rules with 7.5 komi??
BGAadmin \[-\]\: both passed
BGAadmin \[-\]\: AGA rules
BGAadmin \[-\]\: 7.5 komi
rsun \[-\]\: ok
morbidus\: if AGA then +x for x
nonosse \[2k?\]\: are they counting now?
BGAadmin \[-\]\: W+2.5
BGAadmin \[-\]\: they just finished counting
nonosse \[2k?\]\: ok nice
power \[1k\]\: thank you BGAadmin
BGAadmin \[-\]\: Andrew Simons wins, so now the match is tied at 1 game each
nonosse \[2k?\]\: nice game , nice record and nice comment
BGAadmin \[-\]\: there will be a final decider game
TobyM \[1d?\]\: Thanks Matthew
BGAadmin \[-\]\: glad you all joined us
BGAadmin \[-\]\: thanks to Matthew Macfadyen for doing the live commentary
nonosse \[2k?\]\: yeah all was great time
Bombadil \[6k\]\: thanks
BGATeach \[-\]\: And thanks to the players for entertaining us.
BGAadmin \[-\]\: I'm leaving here now - the game record will be put on the BGA website in the next day or so
BGAadmin \[-\]\: thanks all
Feather \[8k\]\: thanks and congratulations to Andrew Simmons and thanks to Andrew Kay for a fantastic game and to all the comments and commentary
Feather \[8k\]\: Simons]B[in]
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;B[cj]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]
;W[rq]
;B[sr]
;W[qp]
;CR[cf]B[pq]C[*** Black seems to believe that the marked stone is a ladder break]
;W[po]
;B[op]
;W[np]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[mo]
;B[nn]
;W[nm]
;B[mn]
;W[ln]
;B[mm]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]
;W[km]
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;W[lk]
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;W[jl]
;B[kk]
;W[kj]
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;W[ik]
;B[jj]
;W[ji]
;B[ij]
;W[hj]
;B[ii]
;W[ih]
;B[hi]
;W[gi]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]
;B[gh]
;W[fh]
;B[gg]
;W[gf]
;B[fg]
;W[eg]
;B[ff]
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;W[ef]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]
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;W[de]
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;W[fe]
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;W[df]
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I was feeling pretty happy at that point with the capture of n5 in sente, and thought Andrew had made a mistake in saving the two stones (should tenuki). But as he did that I figured I should push at n8 as it was a double sente (and with k17 and r10 low he has some centre potential after the push. But that push weakened the r13 group so I reinforced it (worrying about moves like s12 or r12 and crosscut. Locally I think it's actually a decent move (think I saw it in a pro game once, but a lot later in the game) as it has quite a lot of yose value, reduces black's corner group options for an eye to the centre and means s12 and r12 don't work. However, I did feel it was rather slow, but as I felt Andrew's saving of the 2 stones was slow I could reply with a slow and solid move. Having said that maybe n15 (as Matthew suggested in commentary) would be better as that creates opportunities to link up and help the right side group if he attacks that, and o18 might be sente next. However maybe I shouldn't fear r12 and crosscut or whatever (just take the ponnuki which makes the rest of the group strong and give a few stones) and play a big move like c12/13 (so probably black is too busy to do g16 stuff) or d6 or c7. 