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by Kirby Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:43 pm
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If he responded here:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cI really have to think about whether tenuki is a good idea - his followup is pretty big.
But since he played as he did in the game, I feel no real pressure on my group.
So I will take another big point - and I think this is a big one.
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by MinjaeKim Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:20 pm
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by hyperpape Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:53 pm
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by Kirby Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:24 pm
In blitz, I'd play this:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cMight still be okay, but I don't know for sure. In this type of situation, I should think about my options in terms of counter attack on his shape. He has some thinness, so maybe I can come up with a combo to make some sort of counter work.
Maybe something with cross-attach, too...
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Joaz Banbeck
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by Joaz Banbeck Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:13 pm
@Hyperpape & other observers:
hyperpape wrote: What do people think about P17 vs S17? My instinct is that it's not as good. It does make O16 pushing from behind for Black instead of sente, but I don't think O16 was ever awesome for Black anyway. As Kirby points out, it also seems to make it easy for B to tenuki.
I was thinking the same thing. O16 by black is not practical now, but N15 still is almost as good.
For white, strengthening O17 is not all that important, for it is never going to do much since it is easily opposed by black at J17.
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by Joaz Banbeck Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:23 pm
@MinjaeKim:
MinjaeKim wrote: ...
Did you consider any other moves to begin the attack? How did you choose this one?
@observers:
My initial reaction is that this is aji keshi.
Previously, white had B9 in sente to remove easy eye space, and black had to answer submissively because of the weakness at C8.
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by illluck Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:21 pm
@Joaz
I don't disagree that last move may be aji-keshi (lean towards agreeing with you, unless MinjaeKim seem a clear route to attack that we are missing). However, not entirely sure whether losing the hane is a big deal (after the hane white still needs another move to remove the side eye). If black responds at D9 to white's last move, white still has "a" or "b" in reserve:
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by MinjaeKim Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:53 pm
Joaz Banbeck wrote: @MinjaeKim:
MinjaeKim wrote: ...
Did you consider any other moves to begin the attack? How did you choose this one?
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by Kirby Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:17 pm
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by MinjaeKim Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:24 pm
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by Kirby Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:55 pm
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by MinjaeKim Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:58 pm
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by Kirby Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:21 pm
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by MinjaeKim Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:28 pm
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by Kirby Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:40 pm
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