[go]$$cm41 Prisoners; 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O 7 . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O X O O . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Move 47: L9
This is meant to be almost merely a clarification move per white's intentions; mutual destruction is probably the most sensible course to go for as black, so viewing this move from white's perspective, a brute-force method may not be superior to other options. But the game seems within white's control enough to do so anyway.
On Go proverbs:
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
Did you choose the 3-3 invasion (over other invasion points in this corner) because it has the least complications and B is strong around the corner?
I'm 100% alive with the 3-3 invasion, so it doesn't look bad at least. The only other possible invasion point I can see there is 3-4, but If I were black, I'd try to kill all, also given that black is behind.
Can you explain why you played your last move? (other than want to take sente as that presumably means you will play this move, expect white to answer, and then ignore white's answer to play elsewhere, such logic could equally apply to many other local moves, or indeed tenuki). Did you consider any other moves? That move looks very strange to me, not one I would ever consider!
@obs:
At a minimum, iron pillar at r5 is better. But to have a chance to win Elom can't let white live so easily. Going crazy and trying to kill like this might be his only chance:
$$cm51 Prisoners; 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . 7 3 . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X 2 5 . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . 8 4 6 . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . 9 1 . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$cm51Komi_6.5 Prisoners; 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . 3 . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I have no idea as to where to go from here. I want to move somewhere on the central left, however, it probably wouldn't be enough. I considered a move like D4, however I'm not sure if it's really sente, so black loses nearly 40 points here .
Uberdude,
Hmm, good point
$$cfig_1.28 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . d . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X a . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . b , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . c e . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$cfig_1.28 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . d . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X a . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . b , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . c e . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I should probably have just chosen a, however I became too pre-occupied with worrying about the safety of the right side and the position when black leaves to take sente. The right side was probably okay with a. I expected white to respond with e or c, and maybe b, but not the move in the game.
On Go proverbs:
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
[go]$$cm51Komi_6.5 Prisoners; 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . O . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
C10
My counting is very bad, but even I can be sure black is about 30 points behind or so (approximately a similar value to the lower right black sacrificed). I'd to play thick, solidifying moves in the center or lower right, however it just wouldn't be enough.
$$cfig_1.29 Prisoners; 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . O . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . a , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . O b c . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$cFig_1.31 黒: /白: . $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . | $$ | . . X O . . . O . O . . . . O , X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . d . . . . O X . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . c . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . Z b . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . a O . . . . . . . X . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X . O X O O . . X . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White can respond at a, or maybe exchange b for c first, but I haven't read it out properly. Maybe an attachment at d for black would be useful at some point.
On Go proverbs:
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
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