breakfast wrote:Koreans and Japanese will not travel thousand kilometers for playing with each other (if top Europeans will have separated events)
True.
Is it? E.g., in the EGC 2009, the top 5 places went to Korean 7d, of which 3 came from Korea and 2 were staying in Europe. Of their 50 opponents, 18 were among themselves. This is 36% and thus already pretty high. (I have not checked for weaker Korean opponents.)
In the EGC 2003, the top 4 places went to Korean 7d. Of their 40 opponents, 22 were Koreans (i.e., not counting Japanese). This is 55%, a high percentage. Clearly one can say that top Koreans would travel to Europe even if they play a high percentage of games against each other.
This is 55%, a high percentage. Clearly one can say that top Koreans would travel to Europe even if they play a high percentage of games against each other.
True, that is a high number. However if you take the top Europeans out to play their own tournament during the Congress may increase that percentage or pair them with weaker opponents.
As you said some of them may not mind a second evening tournament to player stong European tournaments and may do very well. But some may not and that applies for the European Go players as well. The EGF may well choose this option but it can backfire dramatically especially is no strong players (i.e. 5/6/7 dans upwards) enter this tournament or take it seriously.
RobertJasiek wrote:Clearly one can say that top Koreans would travel to Europe even if they play a high percentage of games against each other.
Facts not in evidence.
A newcomer to the European Congress doesn't know what to expect. If he arrives to find that he's playing a bunch of other Koreans, he may decide that isn't worth returning another year. The real measure of whether the top players are having a good time is if they come back again in future years.
Naturally 'having a good time' involves other factors than simply playing other strong Koreans, but a steady stream of new faces winning the EGC and then never returning doesn't give you grounds to draw your conclusion.
breakfast wrote:Koreans and Japanese will not travel thousand kilometers for playing with each other (if top Europeans will have separated events)
True.
Is it? E.g., in the EGC 2009, the top 5 places went to Korean 7d, of which 3 came from Korea and 2 were staying in Europe. Of their 50 opponents, 18 were among themselves. This is 36% and thus already pretty high. (I have not checked for weaker Korean opponents.)
In the EGC 2003, the top 4 places went to Korean 7d. Of their 40 opponents, 22 were Koreans (i.e., not counting Japanese). This is 55%, a high percentage. Clearly one can say that top Koreans would travel to Europe even if they play a high percentage of games against each other.
RobertJasiek wrote:Clearly one can say that top Koreans would travel to Europe even if they play a high percentage of games against each other.
Facts not in evidence.
A newcomer to the European Congress doesn't know what to expect. If he arrives to find that he's playing a bunch of other Koreans, he may decide that isn't worth returning another year. The real measure of whether the top players are having a good time is if they come back again in future years.
Naturally 'having a good time' involves other factors than simply playing other strong Koreans, but a steady stream of new faces winning the EGC and then never returning doesn't give you grounds to draw your conclusion.
I mean not only top players, but also we weaker . If i found all my opponents being chinese , clearly i won't come back again next year.
RobertJasiek wrote:There are both regular and occasional participants from every country.
And how many of those regulars are competitive for the championship? If you get familiar faces year after year despite playing a sizable fraction of their games with tourists with tourists, then concluding they don't mind it would be reasonable.
. If i found all my opponents being chinese 
, clearly i won't come back again next year.