Hiratuka No Igo

[Hane]

Ok, so what would u recommend? Drago? Do I have just have to make sure hiraktu.exe gets into the command line or do I have to set certain parameters?

tested with Qt Go Board against Pachi 11, command used:

D:\Programs\board.exe -black "D:\Programs\Hiratuka10_36I\Hiratuka-13x13.exe" "-po 10000" -white "D:\Programs\Pachi 11\pachi.exe" "-f book.dat -t =100000 threads=1,pondering=0" -size 13 -komi 6.5

Hiratuka wins and plays much faster than pachi, but I think
Hiratuka is weaker than Zen 4, so I would rather play with Zen!

[wauske]

THAT is why I would like us to be learning more about the new "Julie" neural net program that has appeared on the scene. NOT because it is particularly strong but because it can play at THAT level extremely fast on modest hardware. Which means it could play at that strength at quite reasonable playing speed on VERY weak hardware.

It's the first i've heard about this Julie-program. Any info on where it showed up (KGS, Tygem, forums)?
Also, the neural net posted a few topics down also works very quickly in a browser on modest hardware (the downloadable neural net one). I can even run it on a 2 year old Moto X 2014 (still reasonably high-spec android phone) without any problems though the touchscreen is a bit iffy on the small size

[Sneegurd]

Hane, where from is board.exe? I am interested in letting engines auto play

[wauske]

QT Board looks like this one: https://github.com/Mezoka/Board

[Sneegurd]

Ah yes, I have overlooked he mentioned QT board. Thx!

[Mike Novack]

It's the first i've heard about this Julie-program. Any info on where it showed up (KGS, Tygem, forums)?)

Well I'm trying to follow the computer go tournaments.

It first appeared at the 9th UEC Cup (3/19-20) and played in the KGS Spring Slow Tournament (3/27-30).
The latter tends to list what hardware is being used by each contestant and special mention about the surprisingly little amount of time it was using (order of a second per move).

Not always easy for non-computer folks to always remember, but speed and time trade off. If it could run on the hardware it was on at a second a move then it could play at 10 sec per move on hardware just a tenth as powerful. Which would have it down to modest tablets and powerful phones, etc.

[mazetas]

At 1 kyu rating is free or i must pay after a trial period? Sorry for my english...

[dunknballer21]

Ok, so what would u recommend? Drago? Do I have just have to make sure hiraktu.exe gets into the command line or do I have to set certain parameters?

tested with Qt Go Board against Pachi 11, command used:

D:\Programs\board.exe -black "D:\Programs\Hiratuka10_36I\Hiratuka-13x13.exe" "-po 10000" -white "D:\Programs\Pachi 11\pachi.exe" "-f book.dat -t =100000 threads=1,pondering=0" -size 13 -komi 6.5

Hiratuka wins and plays much faster than pachi, but I think
Hiratuka is weaker than Zen 4, so I would rather play with Zen!

You have Hiratuka playing using 13x13 strategy. Is this on a 19x19 board?

[splee99]

At 1 kyu rating is free or i must pay after a trial period? Sorry for my english...

And I can't read Japanese. What is the condition of the trial version?

[Sneegurd]

You have Hiratuka playing using 13x13 strategy. Is this on a 19x19 board?

No, see the command line, he had it play with "-size 13".

[mazetas]

Help! I cant run this in Drago... I use it with its own interface. Any help for running in drago?

[Sneegurd]

mazetas, in the Drago Engine options, click "Add". in the next window you find a link to "engine.config". Click it, Notepad window opens.
After the GnuGo section, add this section:

Code: Select all

[Hiratuka No Igo]
url = http://www.vector.co.jp/download/file/winnt/game/fh665594.html
connection = not.required
level = arg:-po *0000
boardsize = not.required
chinese.rules = not.required
japanese.rules = not.handled
time.per.move = not.handled
total.time = not.handled
overtime = not.handled

Save file. In the still open Drago window, does it instantly appear in the list? If not, restart Drago. Go there again and click "already installed". Point to engine path etc. etc. Just add engine like you already did with others.

[Pippen]

I just did setup Hiratku with Drago. In my parameter windows it says "po - 10000". Does this mean the depth of search? Does Hira get bette if I change it to 50.000 or even 100.000?

[mazetas]

Sorry i made the steps but a message abnormal termination of engine occurs. Any further help?

[splee99]

Drago is not a good interface, especially if you want Hirabot to teach you, just in case.

Gogui is much easier in terms of unlimited undo, let Hirabot switch color etc.