52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)

k43r · Post by **k43r** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:27 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm79 Move 79 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , 1 . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | 6 5 X . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . | $$ | 8 4 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . | $$ | . 2 3 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . 7 X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | 9 . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Corner is reduced by ~8 (rough estimate, did not count) points and black does not have endgame at A8, so i think this move is worth "only" 10 points in reverse sente. Shouldn't black tenuki and play for example 1? as an urgent point?

p.s. Maybe let's ask players?

Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:56 am

Hey Dusker I won't be around today after this post so feel free to take your time. Weekends are really busy for me this summer.

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Here is what I am aiming for, I don't have much time to explain so Here's a quick synopsis:

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I haven't chosen my exact next move if this sequence occurs I assume around "a" Some moves I really want are "b-d". If I can keep Dusk to one eye in the middle area "c" might become a sente move for me

I really want to play "b" asap as it is urgent, but I still feel attacking his group in the middle is worth more. Perhaps later "e" will help me solidify territory in the center.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:49 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm85 Move 85 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . 1 X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the move below works, though it took me a while to see that it does. Even so, it's very risky.

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I won't have enough points so :b7:

above doesn't work.

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This looks bad.

Fortunately, I think that me playing at :w12:

above is sente to net his middle stones:

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So, he can't play :w2:

, and must instead:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O B B . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O B . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O B . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . O B . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X O B O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O 5 X . O X , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X 6 O 1 X 2 . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . O X O . 3 O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . X X O . 4 . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It appears that it turns into a multi-step ko for him. This seems like a good result for me. I also believe that I win a semeai between his bottom stones and my :bc:

stones. Of course, if I'm wrong, I would probably lose the game.

So, because of the huge risk involved, I think it's safer to play this way.

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Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:49 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm86 Move 86 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O 1 X O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Usually fighting isn't my strongest point. Being a peaceful player and all. But sometimes it is just forced upon us. I really need to maintain sente in this fight so that I can fix my left side.

I feel Dawn Eagle will be pressured to fix his cuts at "a" and "b" before he can turn to attack the left side as mentioned in my previous post.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm85 Move 85 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . a X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . b . O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Harleqin · Post by **Harleqin** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:55 am

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:56 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm87 Move 87 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O . O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm very surprised by his move. It seems to make it way too easy for me to make two eyes this way.

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Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:45 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm88 Move 88 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X . O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O 1 O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:10 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm89 Move 89 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . X 1 O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:53 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm89 Move 89 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . 1 . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:41 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm91 Move 91 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

There's a little bit of weakness in his right side group that this move lets me aim at, which I can lean on to make me stronger.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . 5 O 6 . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . 7 1 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X . O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Also, by running toward the top, it becomes harder for him to attack me for profit. If I ran to the left side, he may be able to attack and seal off the top, making a lot of points.

Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:00 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm92 Move 92 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X 1 O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I am a bit surprised Dusky added the extra move here. I thought he would trash my side first like so:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm91 Move 91 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O 7 5 . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X 3 O 6 . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X 2 1 4 . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If this happened I think I would have to resign. For now I am still not sure with him choosing the move he did. I assume he wants to attack my stones at the top but I don't fear that.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:16 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm93 Move 93 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, so he's trying to make the left side big. I think he should have attacked me from the left more before taking gote over on that side. Now, I am going to fix my shape (probably in sente), take some sente on the right, and then get back to reducing the left some more.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . W X O . . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . 7 O 8 . . | $$ | . 9 O O . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . 2 . 1 . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is my plan. Let's see how closely I can stick to it. My biggest concern is if he plays :w2:

at

. Then do I capture the stone or play around :w2:

myself? If he does that I will have to think for a bit about it.

Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:42 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm94 Move 94 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . 1 . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:44 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm95 Move 95 Caps W:1 B:1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . O . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now time to take a little bit of sente on the right side to keep it low. He can either play as below or he can resist differently, but I think other ways of play for him are worse.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . 5 O 6 . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . 3 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm not going to start from the other side as below because he might be able to play :w4:

like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Whereas this leaves more holes in his shape if he chooses to play like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . | $$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . O . X . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . O . X X O X . O X . . | $$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X X . O X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kerby · Post by **Kerby** » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:59 am

I don't see a way I can gain enough points to come back. Good game Dusk Beagle.

Even if I get all the big points left on the board I would still need to make my stones at the top live, there is no way I can have both.

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