#264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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If Black plays J11 it will be too good for him.
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$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 6 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Added two prisoners from move 40.
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This may take another day or two. The position is complex. ( And also, I'm a political junkie )
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoners: :b2:
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Deciding on this move took a lot of work. The position is complex, and many moves are not what they appear to be at first glance.

I'm still not at all sure that I chose the best move, but I think that I at least avoided the worst of the self-sabotaging moves.

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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . ? ? . X . ? b . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . ? a . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . ? X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . ? f . . |
$$ | . d . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . ? ? . . |
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There are a handful of hot spots on the board.

A) A black move at 'a' is a strong attack on white's central group. It is also a good defensive move for white. However, it is oddly ineffective for either of us to play there.

If I play it, he replies with :w2: and then he is threatening :w4:

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$$ | . . O O X X . 4 X 2 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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And :b1: is too far away from the corner to quash the aji of S16.

If he does it first, it doesn't improve his chances in the corner. Indeed, it might provoke something like P15 from me:

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$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . 2 . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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...which IS enough to settle the corner in my favor:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X 5 3 . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . W . . 8 7 X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . B . X 1 . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . 2 9 . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . 0 . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
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B) By my count, the first move in the upper right corner is worth about 20 points. But despite the superficial apppeal of a move of that size, neither of us is going to play it soon.

If he tries it right now, I probably have to concede the corner. But it is gote for him, and the consequent outside strength that I get deducts a lot from his profits. I come away with sente and proceed to take a good chunk on the upper side. His net profit is nowhere near 20 points, and may even be negative.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . 8 . X 3 1 9 . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . 4 , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X 0 . . . . . . X 2 . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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From my point of view, if he can't play it now, then I don't have to either. So it too is oddly low priority.


C,D&E) These moves are all related, and in some instances they are miai

I'd like to cap with :b1: below, but :w2: is sente to connect. Then he finishes a comfortable life with the big play at B3. It may even be sente for him because of the possibility of a white invasion at H3 or thereabouts.
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$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 X . . . . C . X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I could play B3 myself, but it is not a threat to kill because he always has the option to slide underneath at B11:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



F) There is no way for me to make much profit here with one move, because my stone is high:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 2 . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It really isn't useful for him right now because he just triggers a corner-enclosing reply:

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[go]$$Wcm1
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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X 2 . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And my stone at Q9 is high enough so that it can run easily, and I can treat it lightly. He doesn't profit much.

G) This is the only area that seems to be truly double sente. Each of us can strengthen our position here without the adverse effects that many other moves have.

If he plays a shoulder hit, I have to respond, and suddenly a play on the right side looks big for him, in addition to the obvious corner profits.

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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X 6 . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . 7 . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . 2 1 . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I play there first, it is not only obvious territory for me, but it is sente to reduce his corner to just a few points. Now my stone at P9 starts to look well positioned.

If he defends with a kick, I get even more lower side territory:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . 3 . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 1 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he defends with the dull play at :w2: then the invasion at H3 is much harder for him, so I may start playing against the left side and the center.

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 X . . . . C . X . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't want to tenuki because the corner can easily become weak here. I also don't want to play Q2 because it exchanges the second line move for the third line move ( :b43: ) when the main events are in the center. Tsuke-nobi doesn't look good with black stones already at K3 and Q9. And I think Q6 works better than Q5 if Black invades the san-san.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . Q . 0 O 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X 6 2 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

An interesting move. He allows me to take the corner if I want it.
He is concentrating on influence. That changes the character of the lower and right sides.

On the upper and left side, all of the previous cautions and complications still apply.

On the right, my stone is still light, so I'm not too concerned. But it wouldn't hurt to have more friends in the center if it has to run westward.

On the lower side, this would be a problem:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It squashes my emerging moyo, and even threatens to invade whatever territory I have left. It makes running very difficult for my Q9 stone.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Makes H16 and N17 miai so my group becomes rather strong. Aims to attack G12 group as a whole. And it is not so small in terms of points because it protects from Black cut at K15.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not sure what he is up to. It is aji keshi. It forces me to strengthen myself a bit.
A lighter move seemed better for him here.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If Black answers directly I will surround his group. May be I will be able to kill it. When I'm thinking about killing it becomes difficult to control myself so I don't consider other variants. In any case surrounding should be good because we are playing the surrounding game. If Black answers the peep indirectly the cut at F14 will probably give me a lot of prisoners.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 9 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 0 . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O 0 . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 9 . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 9 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A second aji keshi move. :scratch: :scratch:

The intention of the previous move by itself was not clear, but the last two taken together are without doubt evidence of a conspiracy to attack me. I thought that he is a tad too thin to attempt this. I'll be looking for cutting points.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . 6 . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . 7 O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 9 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 0 . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . . 4 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The motivation for the last two moves is the shape formed by the marked stones. For some reason it appeals to me.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . Q . . Q . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . Q . . Q . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

When I looked at the previous diagram I saw that it can be complemented like this
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . Q . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . Q . . Q . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . Q . . Q . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . Q X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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Joaz Banbeck wrote:...
I thought that he is a tad too thin to attempt this...


It seems that if I play :b1: he must answer with :w2:.
Then he must also answer :b3: with :w4:.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: :b2:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 4 . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 5 3 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and then :b5: gets me out.

I must think about this. The exact order of moves could be crucial.
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Re: #264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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Joaz Banbeck wrote:...
It seems that if I play :b1: he must answer with :w2:.
Then he must also answer :b3: with :w4:.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 4 . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 5 3 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and then :b5: gets me out.
...

There are two lanes that I can use to run out and cut him apart:
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . ? . O ? . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . ? 1 . . ? . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O ? . O . . ? . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and playing at E10 threatens both. He can't plug both gaps.

Whereas my suggested D10 is too biased in favor of one, and would have allowed him a complex, but ultimately successful entrapment of my group.
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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I was immediately pulled towards connecting on top and trying to confine Black. No idea if the variations shown below are reasonable, but it looks like Black is ok.
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 8 O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 6 1 2 . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O 3 4 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ko?

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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 2 . 9 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O 6 3 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 4 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black breaks out, I think?

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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 4 O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 6 1 2 . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . 3 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 8 6 4 O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 5 1 2 . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . 3 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #264 Joaz Banbeck vs TegaiS

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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . O . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 O . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Connects white stones and prevents black from escaping. It leaves some aji at D8 though.
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