I'll give him a very skeptical benefit of a doubt. I might have used OP wrongly then. I meant to use it as OP of that post, not this thread.daal wrote:There is also the possibility that you misunderstood GoTony (who btw is not the OP). For example, he writes: "I am not sure giving Pro status to players not really of that caliber is the best option to take." In this sentence he is speaking not about the motivations of the players to become pros, but rather of the motivation of the institution to grant foreigners pro status.
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Shoryuu you display a masterful sense of incorrect assumptions based on one comment. And your assumptions were equaled by your boorish tone. I am disappointed in your comments.
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shoryuu wrote:I'll give him a very skeptical benefit of a doubt. I might have used OP wrongly then. I meant to use it as OP of that post, not this thread.
As opposed to the non-original poster of the post?
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Meanwhile, Nicola has had a rough patch, losing six straight and standing 5-9 with one round to go. Shibano seems to be leading.
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Nikola Mitic lost his last match, for a total of 7 defeats in a row and finishes 14th out of 16 at 5
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The two new pros are:
- Shibano Ryuunosuke, 18-year-old male outsider, on 12
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- Kan Koutarou, 14-year-old male insei, on 11
4 
Both started pretty badly but Shibano won his last 8 games and Kan finished on a 9-1 streak, losing only against Shibano.
The two new pros are:
- Shibano Ryuunosuke, 18-year-old male outsider, on 12
- Kan Koutarou, 14-year-old male insei, on 11
Both started pretty badly but Shibano won his last 8 games and Kan finished on a 9-1 streak, losing only against Shibano.
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Too bad for Nicola Mitic.
Any relationship with Shibano Toramaru?Jhyn wrote:- Shibano Ryuunosuke, 18-year-old male outsider, on 123
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Nice catch! It seems to be his older brother (by a bit more than one year).Shenoute wrote:Any relationship with Shibano Toramaru?
I found the info by rough translation of his twitter info: https://twitter.com/igospicyspy
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Thanks. I must say the (large?) number of brothers/sisters and father/children(/grandchildren) among professionals makes me question the very idea of "talent", or at least its importance compared to early exposure, professional guidance and training from day 1.Jhyn wrote:Nice catch! It seems to be his older brother (by a bit more than one year).Shenoute wrote:Any relationship with Shibano Toramaru?
I found the info by rough translation of his twitter info: https://twitter.com/igospicyspy
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But isn't "talent" usually considered largely genetic? So Go families would support not detract from the talent theory.Shenoute wrote:I must say the (large?) number of brothers/sisters and father/children(/grandchildren) among professionals makes me question the very idea of "talent", or at least its importance compared to early exposure, professional guidance and training from day 1.
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Is it? If so then, yes, I guess go dynasties only make the idea of "talent" stronger. Im my mind "talent" refered more to this inexplicable knack individuals have for something and so I have trouble relating it to something as down to earth as genetics, but why notUberdude wrote:But isn't "talent" usually considered largely genetic? So Go families would support not detract from the talent theory.
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