Who's playing in Tygem? -- It was AlphaGo!!

[pookpooi]

I spend my holiday trying to find update about this (which is very hard considering I don't know Chinese/Korean/Japanese language)
But thanks to Google translate, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong

Look like Master appear at Fox server with crown mark (Xing Tian AI doesn't have this mark) may confirm that Master is, in a way, related to AlphaGo.

source

Also Ke Jie comment that Master is much better than Xing Tian, and Xing Tian is around the level of AlphaGo in Lee Sedol match back in March


Can anyone dig into Fox server? (aka QQ's weiqi game service)

[illluck]

I have a bit more info on Master's opponents, but keep getting error messages when I try to post it.

Edit: An incomplete list of Master's opponents on Tygem (apparently Master
is playing on Wild Fox now)

Game 4: 卧虎(P)（谢尔豪) = Xie Erhao
Game 5: 无痕(P)（於之莹）= Yu Zhiying
Game 6: 翱翔(P)（李翔宇）= Li Xiangyu
Game 7: 三齐王(P)（韩一洲）= Han Yizou
Game 9: 愿我能(P)（孟泰龄）= Meng Tailing
Game 10: 愿我能(P)（孟泰龄）= Meng Tailing
Game 14: 斩立决(P)（严在明）= Yan Zaiming
Game 15: XIUZHI(P)（朴廷桓）= Park Junghwan
Game 16: 剑术(P)（连笑）= Lian Xiao
Game 17: 剑术(P)（连笑）= Lian Xiao
Game 18: 吻别(P)（柯洁）= Ke Jie
Game 19: 吻别(P)（柯洁）= Ke Jie
Game 20: XIUZHI(P)（朴廷桓）= Park Junghwan - This was presumably the game
that made Ali late for the ceremony :p
Game 21: 龙胆(P)（陈耀烨 ）= Chen Yaoye
Game 22: 龙胆(P)（陈耀烨 ）= Chen Yaoye
Game 23: abc2080(P)（金志锡）= Kim Jiseok
Game 24: XIUZHI(P)（朴廷桓）= Park Junghwan
Game 25: XIUZHI(P)（朴廷桓）= Park Junghwan
Game 26: dauning(P)（李东勋）= Lee Donghun
Game 27: ddcg（范廷钰）= Fan Tingyu
Game 28: 愿我能(P)（孟泰龄）= Meng Tailing
Game 29: 拼搏(P)（芈昱廷）= Mi Yuting
Game 30: 930115（唐韦星）= Tang Weixing

All the information above (along with sgfs and end position diagrams)
are from http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4922688212?pn=1 - I can't speak to
their accuracy :p

[xiayun]

The games on Foxwq server:

Game 31: black2012 = Li Qincheng
Game 32: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 33: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 34: 我想静静了 = Dang Yifei
Game 35: 若水云寒 = Jiang Weijie
Game 36: 印城之霸 = Gu Zihao
Game 37: pyh = Park Yeonghun
Game 38: 天选 = Tuo Jiaxi

[pookpooi]

Let me recap a little bit, a list of pro-level bot
AlphaGo
DeepZenGo
Xing Tian
Jueyi (rumored to be the same as Weigo by Tencent AI platform department)
Master (only South Korean program I can think of is Dolbaram powered up by KBA and Korean government)
GodMoves (rumored to be 神の一手 (Hand of God) by Acer Inc.)

Hideki tweet that UEC cup will reveal all the mystery.

Also, this

source https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... permPage=1

Update: Iyama Yuta also lost to Master (in fox server) as well, so basically Master has won against top four players of goratings.org (not counting AlphaGo)

[lichigo]

Is it possible to get the chinese tygem accounts in English?

[johnsmith]

The games on Foxwq server:

Game 31: black2012 = Li Qincheng
Game 32: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 33: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 34: 我想静静了 = Dang Yifei
Game 35: 若水云寒 = Jiang Weijie
Game 36: 印城之霸 = Gu Zihao
Game 37: pyh = Park Yeonghun
Game 38: 天选 = Tuo Jiaxi

How can we see those games if we don't have an account on foxwq? Did master win all of those games as well?

[pookpooi]

How can we see those games if we don't have an account on foxwq? Did master win all of those games as well?

I also want to see these game live, but the registration and installation of fox is very.... inconvenience
But it look like a home of mass Chinese players, 4000+ people observe Master vs. Iyama Yuta game

But right now, all I did is dig information through Google, Facebook, Twitter, like this



And yes, it won all game, right now it's playing 11th game with Kim Jiseok

[pookpooi]

Also, Yamato (of Zen) spot twitter news headline about AlphaGo (but not related to Master)
On 29 December the name of Master in Tygem is still Magist, and change into Master on 30 December (the day this news was tweeted)
Coincident? (my twitter timezone is UTC +7)

[JoeS1]

Anyone know what time settings they are playing on? I'm assuming they are playing with at least 30 second byomi. But I'm guessing since it sounds like 10 games are being played a day, they aren't very long games, and the pros aren't able to play at their best because of it.

Regardless, I've looked at several games so far and the way the program beats them, there appears to be a large gap in skill level between it and the pros.

[pookpooi]

Anyone know what time settings they are playing on? I'm assuming they are playing with at least 30 second byomi. But I'm guessing since it sounds like 10 games are being played a day, they aren't very long games, and the pros aren't able to play at their best because of it.

Regardless, I've looked at several games so far and the way the program beats them, there appears to be a large gap in skill level between it and the pros.

From what I search, 20 seconds 3 byoyomi periods while in Tygem and 30 seconds in Fox server, both have no main time.

[Bonobo]

Re: “AlphaGo” vs. “Master”:

One thing I always had in mind when I read the name “AlphaGo” is this:



And now this:

A copy of the RTM build known as the "gold master" or GM is sent for mass duplication.

(emphasis added by me)

(cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_ ... life_cycle)


Of course this can all be mere coincidence But words and names are interesting, aren’t they?


This could also explain why Aja Huang was NOT lying when he said that AlphaGo would play under the name of “AlphaGo[Bot]” if she would play

[pookpooi]

reddit user post master game on fox
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... f_masterp/

[Bonobo]

And another archive with Master(P) games, already posted elsewhere here by GoRo:

http://www.go-baduk-weiqi.de/masterp-sc ... go-profis/ (41 games, they still contain a few ???)

The site is in German, all you really need to know is that “gegen” means “against” or “versus” (“vs.”)

[xiayun]

So 41-0 atm. It's playing about 10 games a day, from 10am local time in China to 10pm.

[xiayun]

Kang Dongyun (Game 43) and Shi Yue (Game 45) challenged Master for the first time and lost by resign respectively.