DDK Review Request!
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DDK Review Request!
I just started playing on KGS, and I managed to beat an 11k! I think I played pretty well, except I REALLY dropped the ball w/ that monkey jump invasion. I played black. Could someone give me a few tips?
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Did you read if W pushes and cuts at R3 ?
Jealous move that doesn't really do anything:-
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Re: DDK Review Request!
TofuPython wrote:I just started playing on KGS, and I managed to beat an 11k! I think I played pretty well, except I REALLY dropped the ball w/ that monkey jump invasion. I played black. Could someone give me a few tips?
Hi,
Here are some standard ways to stop a monkey jump according to the position of the stone that is jumped over : forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13636&p=210928#p210928
Once your opponent is pushing on the first line, instead of following, try to stop him with a net (play one intersection ahead). Read the sequence, and if it doesn't work, try a net two intersections ahead. Being two intersections ahead should be enough to stop anything.
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EdLee wrote:116 Bad habit. Just connect is better.
Ed, I've seen you make this comment before. Would you mind explaining why just connecting is the better move?
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Re: DDK Review Request!
The descent - white takes gote and ends up with 5 points. Black has 7 points.
The connect. White still takes gote, but play stops here for a while:
Later...
If black gets to follow up - white has sente and four points; black has 7 points. This is a one point loss for white from the initial diagram:
If white gets to follow up - White has sente and 5 points, black has 5 points. This is two points better for white than the initial diagram:
If there's a 50% chance white gets to make the follow up, it means that on average connecting is .5 point better than just descending. But since white comes away with sente in either continuation, it's really even better for white than that. If counting, you'd count the sente follow up as part of the original move, so you could say the connect is two points better than just descending. It doesn't sound like much, but if you make the correct endgame move consistently it adds up quickly.
(If the surrounding stones are a bit different, there may also be aji for white to clamp instead of just hane in the endgame, in which case the situation skews even further in white's favor.)
The connect. White still takes gote, but play stops here for a while:
Later...
If black gets to follow up - white has sente and four points; black has 7 points. This is a one point loss for white from the initial diagram:
If white gets to follow up - White has sente and 5 points, black has 5 points. This is two points better for white than the initial diagram:
If there's a 50% chance white gets to make the follow up, it means that on average connecting is .5 point better than just descending. But since white comes away with sente in either continuation, it's really even better for white than that. If counting, you'd count the sente follow up as part of the original move, so you could say the connect is two points better than just descending. It doesn't sound like much, but if you make the correct endgame move consistently it adds up quickly.
(If the surrounding stones are a bit different, there may also be aji for white to clamp instead of just hane in the endgame, in which case the situation skews even further in white's favor.)
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Hi BlindGroup,
Supplement to Jeromie's notes:
Variation 1 (real game): W has forced
to be sente ;
W has forced gote on himself:
Variation 2: W connects solidly. If still drops like the real game,
now W has a choice whether to reply at (b) and
revert to the game shape, or tenuki:
in this game, was gote, so W would ignore it:
Variation 3: Re: aji mentioned by Jeromie:
In some cases, B may not drop to (x) immediately
and help W fix his shape: instead, B may wait for a chance
later to exploit W's local weakness(es): example: (d).
In reply to
hane, W has these options:
(a) solid connect
(b) drop
(c) 1st line tiger's mouth
(d) 1st line jump
(e) 2nd line tiger's mouth
(x) special cases: 1st line hane
(o) other local replies
(t) tenuki
The correct reply depends on the exact, global board situation ( which is a truism
).
However, if we ( not only beginners ) develop a habit to favor one of these local replies without a correct global assessment, then it can become a problem.
( Posts 7 & 8 got squeezed into a few words in post 3 and other game notes. )
Supplement to Jeromie's notes:
Variation 1 (real game): W has forced
to be sente ;W has forced gote on himself:
Variation 2: W connects solidly. If
still drops like the real game,now W has a choice whether to reply at (b) and
revert to the game shape, or tenuki:
in this game,
was gote, so W would ignore it:Variation 3: Re: aji mentioned by Jeromie:
In some cases, B may not drop to (x) immediately
and help W fix his shape: instead, B may wait for a chance
later to exploit W's local weakness(es): example: (d).
In reply to
hane, W has these options:(a) solid connect
(b) drop
(c) 1st line tiger's mouth
(d) 1st line jump
(e) 2nd line tiger's mouth
(x) special cases: 1st line hane
(o) other local replies
(t) tenuki
The correct reply depends on the exact, global board situation ( which is a truism
).However, if we ( not only beginners ) develop a habit to favor one of these local replies without a correct global assessment, then it can become a problem.
( Posts 7 & 8 got squeezed into a few words in post 3 and other game notes.
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Re: DDK Review Request!
You might enjoy this problem that I composed back in '01.
Maybe not so easy, but not so hard, either.
(I think I have posted it here before, but I couldn't find it.
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Maybe not so easy, but not so hard, either.
(I think I have posted it here before, but I couldn't find it.
)The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Thanks.