The Reign of Ke Jie
-
Uberdude
- Judan
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
- Rank: UK 4 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Uberdude 4d
- OGS: Uberdude 7d
- Location: Cambridge, UK
- Has thanked: 436 times
- Been thanked: 3718 times
-
pookpooi
- Lives in sente
- Posts: 727
- Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
- GD Posts: 10
- Has thanked: 44 times
- Been thanked: 218 times
Re: The Reign of Ke Jie
Well, I'd stick with number provided by association.
I have to accept the big flaw, that different association have different criteria on how to count consecutive win (and even worse, may be different criteria within that association).
And while these numbers are far from accurate and transparent, they've enough credibility to be cited in general go-related article (as long as the topic itself is not about consecutive win)
For people that side with this idea, here's the number
Nihon Kiin
Sakata Eio 29
Iyama Yuta, Rin Kaiho, O Risei, Ryu Shikun 24
Hanguk Kiwon
Lee Changho 41
Lee Sedol 32
Though I can't find the KBA source of Kim In's 40 consecutive wins, if anyone can, please tell me. His official english profile didn't say anything about this.
And look like Chinese Weiqi Association doesn't say anything on this matter yet, maybe they'll wait until Ke Jie winning streak is over.
I have to accept the big flaw, that different association have different criteria on how to count consecutive win (and even worse, may be different criteria within that association).
And while these numbers are far from accurate and transparent, they've enough credibility to be cited in general go-related article (as long as the topic itself is not about consecutive win)
For people that side with this idea, here's the number
Nihon Kiin
Sakata Eio 29
Iyama Yuta, Rin Kaiho, O Risei, Ryu Shikun 24
Hanguk Kiwon
Lee Changho 41
Lee Sedol 32
Though I can't find the KBA source of Kim In's 40 consecutive wins, if anyone can, please tell me. His official english profile didn't say anything about this.
And look like Chinese Weiqi Association doesn't say anything on this matter yet, maybe they'll wait until Ke Jie winning streak is over.
-
Uberdude
- Judan
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
- Rank: UK 4 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Uberdude 4d
- OGS: Uberdude 7d
- Location: Cambridge, UK
- Has thanked: 436 times
- Been thanked: 3718 times
Re: The Reign of Ke Jie
The last game against Tao Xinran was interesting: Ke played a large avalanche outward turn variation that he famously got tricked in by Qiu Jun in the 2nd Bailing cup final game 3 (and thus lost early, but won the match overall for his first international title and 9p). This one became a huge trade, I don't know if joseki.
-
Uberdude
- Judan
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
- Rank: UK 4 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Uberdude 4d
- OGS: Uberdude 7d
- Location: Cambridge, UK
- Has thanked: 436 times
- Been thanked: 3718 times
Re: The Reign of Ke Jie
Ke Jie beat Xie He by resignation in only 121 moves: Ke interestingly allowed a broken shape and then sacrificed 2 stones which didn't actually make Xie's group safe; a ko resulted and Xie made a threat which Ke cleverly turned into gote using some nearby aji.
-
Uberdude
- Judan
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
- Rank: UK 4 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Uberdude 4d
- OGS: Uberdude 7d
- Location: Cambridge, UK
- Has thanked: 436 times
- Been thanked: 3718 times
-
Uberdude
- Judan
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
- Rank: UK 4 dan
- GD Posts: 0
- KGS: Uberdude 4d
- OGS: Uberdude 7d
- Location: Cambridge, UK
- Has thanked: 436 times
- Been thanked: 3718 times
Re: The Reign of Ke Jie
macelee wrote:Not surprising another victory, but the way he managed to win it.
Do you mean after he died/sacrificed so much at the bottom, and then black lived in his big moyo too? That did seem like giving up a lot to me, but In Ke Jie We Trust™
P.S. The e2 threat seemed pretty sad as it meant the 3 stones could be captured later (so no chance to get m2 sente, though I did wonder if he could/should have played k2 l2 m2 in sente before L7 sacrifice to avoid the shape pain from when black got m2) and he couldn't even live in the corner afterwards. I suppose that was the only threat big enough? r14 would have been ignored because black connects ko, white pushes through and then black jumps to o11 which makes sure that half of the group is safe and captures white whilst going into the moyo and there's still aji at q17 or p18 or n17?
-
kimidori
- Dies with sente
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:41 am
- Rank: KGS 3d
- GD Posts: 0
- Has thanked: 26 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: The Reign of Ke Jie
I was kinda hoping for Shin Minjun to stop Ke Jie, since he seems to have good result against Ke. When I checked the game (around move 100 I believe), I also felt that B is good. But now that I look back, even though B has a lot of cash, W potential on the top is scary.
Also, the Ko on the top is too hard for B to handle. Can B play 133 at O18 instead of S16 to avoid it?
Also, the Ko on the top is too hard for B to handle. Can B play 133 at O18 instead of S16 to avoid it?
-
event_horizon
- Beginner
- Posts: 11
- Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:47 am
- Rank: Fox 4d
- GD Posts: 0
- Been thanked: 1 time

