Where did I lose this game?

[Bill Spight]

You should also learn this tesuji.

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threatens . This way, White does not have to come back and protect against the cut.

@Bill:

Not heard that proverb, but heard a rule of thumb about 8 points of eyespace. Even if I am more than capable of dying with 8 points of eyespace...

Most go proverbs are rules of thumb.

You can die, but as White can you force Black to make seki or a ko which White takes first?

[Schachus]

oh yeah, dont know why I missed that..