The Reign of Ke Jie

Higher level discussions, analysis of professional games, etc., go here.
pookpooi
Lives in sente
Posts: 727
Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
GD Posts: 10
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by pookpooi »

TheCannyOnion wrote:Iyama was lucky to have won that one game due to Ke Jie's illness. Ke was discharged from hospital for exhaustion and stomach flu just before the match.
I'm not sure on the health severity of Ke Jie at that time but the day after he lost to Iyama he won against Park Jungwhan.
kimidori
Dies with sente
Posts: 112
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:41 am
Rank: KGS 3d
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 26 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by kimidori »

I would consider this win a "valid" win of Iyama over Ke Jie, but despite being his fan, I don't think Iyama right now can be compared to Ke Jie (or Park). He is at best a top 10 to me, and needs to show more consistency in international results (not easy if you consider his playing style) to maintain that position.

By the way, this topic is about Ke Jie, and he just lost to Zhou today. Glad to see Zhou back, his form lately has been quite poor.
Uberdude
Judan
Posts: 6727
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
Rank: UK 4 dan
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Location: Cambridge, UK
Has thanked: 436 times
Been thanked: 3718 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by Uberdude »

Ke just lost to Korean wonderkid Shin Jinseo 8p in the Chinese league. He opened with double 3-3 and Shin made his largest territory between them. (Shin played double 4-4 and Ke early invaded one).
pookpooi
Lives in sente
Posts: 727
Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
GD Posts: 10
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by pookpooi »

I cheer Ke Jie but Shin Jinseo is the strongest non-9p right now, it's unthinkable that he hasn't win any international major yet. (And to think that he has to do it before his military conscription...)
Uberdude
Judan
Posts: 6727
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:35 am
Rank: UK 4 dan
GD Posts: 0
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Location: Cambridge, UK
Has thanked: 436 times
Been thanked: 3718 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by Uberdude »

pookpooi wrote:I cheer Ke Jie but Shin Jinseo is the strongest non-9p right now, it's unthinkable that he hasn't win any international major yet. (And to think that he has to do it before his military conscription...)
I wouldn't be so surprised: there's a lot of top pros and not so many international tournaments, he's only been a super-top pro for a year or so, and with a knockout there's a lot of variance. But actually he did win the Globis cup earlier this year, though that's restricted to under 20s.
pookpooi
Lives in sente
Posts: 727
Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
GD Posts: 10
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by pookpooi »

“I don’t want to compete with AI any more. It is really painful, but if people enjoy seeing me being tortured by AI, I will be glad to go through it again,” Ke joked in the end of his interview with Yicai Global.

The top-ranking Go player is hopeful about AI-human symbiote: “I once dreamed, if one day a super chip can dramatically increase humans’ computing capacity, I will be the first to have it implanted in my head and take my revenge on AlphaGo for what it did to me before.”

https://yicaiglobal.com/news/ke-jie-ban ... at-alphago
WindCaliber
Dies with sente
Posts: 75
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:21 pm
Rank: SDK
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by WindCaliber »

I read that just a little while ago. That would be interesting if we had a Ke Jie android!

On a side note, with Ke Jie's recent loss to Iyama Yuta, the gap between him and Park Junghwan on goratings is now as close as it's been for a while, only 13 points!

Is there any info on when the finals of the Xin'ao Cup are being played?
xiayun
Lives in gote
Posts: 384
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:24 pm
Rank: KGS 2d
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 22 times
Been thanked: 98 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by xiayun »

WindCaliber wrote: Is there any info on when the finals of the Xin'ao Cup are being played?
It'll be a best-of-5 starting on 12/18, then 19/21/23/24.
pookpooi
Lives in sente
Posts: 727
Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
GD Posts: 10
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by pookpooi »

Mysterious account in Fox Go Server had 41 win streak with many big name pros, but don't worry, Ke Jie manage to end that winning streak!

http://news.sina.com.tw/article/20171118/24661564.html
http://news.chengdu.cn/2017/1119/1929565.shtml
lichigo
Lives with ko
Posts: 199
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:47 pm
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by lichigo »

Today Ke jie played Shi yue in the chinese A league, unfortunately he lost (again). Maybe he is in a slump. I also don't really like his recent style , I feel it is very thin; like water hahahah.
http://duiyi.sina.com.cn/gibo_new/gibov ... img=&wimg=
Ke jie is white and Shi yue is black. White's moves are so impressive but not enough to win.
kityanhem
Beginner
Posts: 6
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:26 am
Rank: KGS 3d
GD Posts: 0
KGS: CuTy

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by kityanhem »

His style really like AlphaGo Zero now (the global style). Althought he said he doesn't want to compete with AI, I think he still never give up to catch up AI. Some pro players I know still want to beat the god of go. Superhuman will appear. XD
WindCaliber
Dies with sente
Posts: 75
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:21 pm
Rank: SDK
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by WindCaliber »

WindCaliber wrote: On a side note, with Ke Jie's recent loss to Iyama Yuta, the gap between him and Park Junghwan on goratings is now as close as it's been for a while, only 13 points!
lichigo wrote:Today Ke jie played Shi yue in the chinese A league, unfortunately he lost (again). Maybe he is in a slump. I also don't really like his recent style , I feel it is very thin; like water hahahah.
http://duiyi.sina.com.cn/gibo_new/gibov ... img=&wimg=
Ke jie is white and Shi yue is black. White's moves are so impressive but not enough to win.
I took a look at the game, and it seems really complicated with a huge fight on the top. By my (probably inaccurate) count, Shi Yue was ahead by ~2.5 points when Ke Jie resigned.

Ke Jie is now 10 points from Park on goratings :O
If he loses another game, and Park wins one, Park might take back the #1 spot!
WindCaliber
Dies with sente
Posts: 75
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:21 pm
Rank: SDK
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by WindCaliber »

pookpooi wrote:Mysterious account in Fox Go Server had 41 win streak with many big name pros, but don't worry, Ke Jie manage to end that winning streak!

http://news.sina.com.tw/article/20171118/24661564.html
http://news.chengdu.cn/2017/1119/1929565.shtml
From Ke Jie's Weibo the previous weekend:
"一个AI满地走的时代...除了alphago以外,这个昵称为“符合预期”的ai尤其强,实力应该已经远超当时与李世石对弈的alphago了吧?...在平台上41连胜...今日被我终结...一度觉得没法继续了的棋,很艰苦赢了下来...若是当初第一个与alphago对弈的人是我?结果到底会是如何?今夜未成眠... ​​​​"

Roughly translated to:
This is an AI generation(?). Besides alphago, the AI called "fuheyuqi' is especially strong, probably already even stronger than the alphago that played Lee Sedol? Its 41 win streak was ended by me today. For a time, I felt that there was no way to continue playing, and it was very difficult to win in the end. If the first person to have played alphago was me? What would the result have been? Won't be sleeping tonight...
xiayun
Lives in gote
Posts: 384
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:24 pm
Rank: KGS 2d
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 22 times
Been thanked: 98 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by xiayun »

Ke Jie just lost to Fan Yunruo in Chinese A League for his 8 losses in 11 games. Park Junghwan, on the other hand, won, so their Gorating difference will get even smaller.
pookpooi
Lives in sente
Posts: 727
Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:26 pm
GD Posts: 10
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 218 times

Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by pookpooi »

Did the news about Ke Jie lost his bag at the airport get translate yet? Spoiler alert someone return the bag to him.
Post Reply