Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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johnsmith wrote:I've been observing deepzengo games on WBaduk against Japanese pros, and so far deepzengo has lost only 2 games. Which means Zen is still beatable. Does anyone know how to access the archive of played games?


It's easy: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/1776

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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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These might be some official events, but other than that deepzengo has been playing every day. 1300 wins, 50 loses.
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Isla wrote:ZenAuthor mentioned that:
(1) Zen's main customers are still elderly people in Japan, who do not even know what GPU is.
I really like this one :tmbup:

I would love to see a GTP version for Zen, but somehow I understand that it would be a business killer for them: plenty of Zen bots would appear on KGS/OGS reducing the need to purchase the software.
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Shiraishi Yuichi 6p just reviews Zenith Go 7 review function (in Japanese language)

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/igoshiraishi/e/ba ... 00d80d8075

In the end he thinks it's very strong and encourage people to use Zen in the right way.
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Can someone test Zen 7 vs Leela 11 GPU version?
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Krama wrote:Can someone test Zen 7 vs Leela 11 GPU version?


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Leela-0.11.0-8t1g   3464   198   2017-10-24 21:49:09
Zen-15.3-1c0g   3457   4263   2017-10-25 07:32:31
Zen-15.4-1c0g   3449   922   2017-10-25 07:32:31


Zen should be stronger. Zen is only a little behind when using 1 core, and even if it does not support GPUs then it surely supports more than 1 core?

It does not look like the difference will be big if you have a good GPU though.
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Garf wrote:

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Leela-0.11.0-8t1g   3464   198   2017-10-24 21:49:09
Zen-15.3-1c0g   3457   4263   2017-10-25 07:32:31
Zen-15.4-1c0g   3449   922   2017-10-25 07:32:31

I know "1c0g" means 1 CPU and 0 GPU, but what does "8t" mean? Surely it's not Google's TPU?
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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luigi wrote:
Garf wrote:

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Leela-0.11.0-8t1g   3464   198   2017-10-24 21:49:09
Zen-15.3-1c0g   3457   4263   2017-10-25 07:32:31
Zen-15.4-1c0g   3449   922   2017-10-25 07:32:31

I know "1c0g" means 1 CPU and 0 GPU, but what does "8t" mean? Surely it's not Google's TPU?

Probably means "Thread".
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Thanks for the heads-up! Bought and installed :study:
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Gomoto wrote:Thanks for the heads-up! Bought and installed :study:


Can you show me how to purchase and install it?

One question. It said the strength is depended on the hardware.
has anyone try this on the Ryzen 7 1700X and see how it performs?
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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kdbaby1412 wrote:
Gomoto wrote:Thanks for the heads-up! Bought and installed :study:


Can you show me how to purchase and install it?

One question. It said the strength is depended on the hardware.
has anyone try this on the Ryzen 7 1700X and see how it performs?


You have to register and give your first, last name and email. After the purchase download zip from "my page". And that's it. Zen is using CPU only and it had beaten RoyalLeela on 1min time setting.
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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johnsmith wrote:
kdbaby1412 wrote:
Gomoto wrote:Thanks for the heads-up! Bought and installed :study:


Can you show me how to purchase and install it?

One question. It said the strength is depended on the hardware.
has anyone try this on the Ryzen 7 1700X and see how it performs?


You have to register and give your first, last name and email. After the purchase download zip from "my page". And that's it. Zen is using CPU only and it had beaten RoyalLeela on 1min time setting.


Can I know what hardware you test Zen 7 on?
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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Re: Tenchou no Igo 7 Zen

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Reminder that the developer recommend running each program on independent hardware for benchmark otherwise it's not equal CPU distribution

https://twitter.com/gghideki_katoh/stat ... 0984525824
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