Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...

[Gomoto]

... and the winner is Leela Zero at 20 sec per move.

(Intel I5 2500k & Nvidia 1080Ti)



(Zen did not see the defeat until late in the game.)

[Gomoto]

Game 2:

Zen 7 (20 sec. p. move) versus Leela Zero (10 sec. p. move)

I like this game very much. An intense battle of the two dargon masters. Leela Zero outplays Zen very nicely and displays quite a Ko fighting strength in this one.

How low can I go with the time settings for Leela Zero on my local box?

How blessed am I, to have these two master teachers available.


(Probably a mistake that Zen 7 was released without GPU support.)

[Gomoto]

5 seconds is to tight for Leela Zero on my box, finally a win for Zen:

[Pippen]

Is it possible you let Zen continue with Black here and LeelaZero with White with at least 30s per move. I wonder how Leela does in a slightly suboptimal fuseki.

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[Gomoto]

Why Zen versus Leela? I have to put in the moves by hand

[Pippen]

I just would like to know if Leela can win as White against Zen as black in this setup. I thought maybe you could just let them play from move 5 onwards...otherwise it's a little bit complicated.

[Gomoto]

Sorry I am not interested at plays in the middle of the side in the opening stage. Too passive, only corners and approach moves make the cut for me.

[Pippen]

Too passive

It may look like that, but it's actually very aggressive, because the splitting stone supports all kinds of daring maneuvers in the vincinity.

[Uberdude]

Sorry I am not interested at plays in the middle of the side in the opening stage. Too passive, only corners and approach moves make the cut for me.

And before I saw them both in the same thread I thought Gomoto might have been the reincarnation of Pippen!

[Gomoto]

Antichinese opening (Not necessary, because chinese opening is bad )

Variation 1 (Antichinese by Leela Zero 10 sec.)

[kdbaby1412]

How do you set the time for LeelaZ ?

[Pippen]

Wow, did LeelaZ play White and win? I am impressed how easypeasy Leela did with such an argueable suboptimal opening.

[Gomoto]

Antichinese debunked by Leela Zero (10 sec.) Black versus Zen 7 (20 sec.) White.

Leela Zero shows quite some shinogi abilities to support the early 3-3 invasion.

Antichinese Variation 2:

[Uberdude]

lol at 69 "your vital point is my vital point".

[Gomoto]

I think 69 is quite hard to find, aka it is quite easy to miss

http://ps.waltheri.net/940193

But if your confident to kill ...