Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...

[Pippen]

Leela Zero seems so much stronger than Zen that it can win even with suboptimal openings (or maybe those split fusekis are better than their reputation^^).

[Bill Spight]

Wow, did LeelaZ play White and win? I am impressed how easypeasy Leela did with such an argueable suboptimal opening.

Yeah, but Zen played the enclosure in the bottom right instead of playing in the open corner. Which is what Leela did as Black in the next game.

But you really want some self play games.

[kdbaby1412]

I don't know if this is an error; But leela Zero was winning until move 384 where she filled in her own eyes and lost the group. It was interesting to see that both engines did not even know who is winning. Clearly, W is winning 5.5.

Setting for both is 10s/ move

AMD Ryzen 1700X , GTX 1600 3GB

[Pippen]

@bill: If we take this setup I bet Leela will win with White, even if 4 is played at 'a' (which I think is a better place for 4 by the way).

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[sorin]

How do you set the time for LeelaZ ?

See this post for details: viewtopic.php?p=228577#p228577
In that example, I set it to 31 (which seems to result in actually 30 seconds, according to the logs).

[Bill Spight]

@bill: If we take this setup I bet Leela will win with White, even if 4 is played at 'a' (which I think is a better place for 4 by the way).

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Probably, huh? That's why we need self play.