Life in 19x19 Title Tournament, Round 1 and 2 draws

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:32 pm

Aphelion continues to stomp his opponents. Well done.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:45 pm

Kokomi/snowcat beat me by 12.5. Thanks for the game! Will post comments later, but I have to run.

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:51 pm

lindentree wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
lindentree wrote:MountainGo(W) vs. lindentree(B),

8: Wrong way. The standard joseki gets you a nice wall to go with D3

18: Again, the choice of joseki ignores neighboring corners.

21: Ouch

23: Ouch

45: The wrong direction. Try Q8. Take 4th rank territory while chasing him toward your wall. Forcing white toward the center just encourages him to surround your center group.

Um, thank you for the comments, but you could have been clearer on who each comment was intended for.

Yeah, it was a bit sloppy. Sorry about that. The first four were addressed to white, the last to black.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:47 pm

I had black in my match against zinger and lost by resignation, though I felt like I made a game out of it.

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:32 pm

fwiffo wrote:I had black in my match against zinger and lost by resignation, though I felt like I made a game out of it.

@zinger: The white pieces really worked well together in the fuseki. I enjoyed it.

All comments below are for Fwiffo, except #54 to zinger.

19: This feels just a tad too casual. True, it is as big as almost any point on the board, but it lacks punch. It give white sente.
If you are concerned about the health of your upper left group, B18 is semi-sente, for he has to worry about C13.
Also, moves like F3 or R11 have a bit more urgency to them.

29: This is too small. If you want to increase your impending moyo, try F8 or F10 or O6. If you want really big, tenuki to the right side.

37: You must play O6 here, or retain sente to do so.

54: Why not just play O6 now? Your opponent knows that you must play it. When you play Q9 first, you are committing to a certain pattern of attack, and then you stop to play O6 so that he has breathing space to defend - when he knows what the attack will be. Better to play O6 first, and leave him to worry about where you will hit when you have no weaknesses of your own, and he has to defend against any type of attack.

61: Too close to strength. If you have to play there, try N16 at least.
But you have far more urgent things to worry about than defending territory up top. I would have played S12 here, trying to keep everybody connected. Then N12 and N8 are miai, if I read correctly.

83: You must reinforce up top. H17 maybe?
If you has played B18 earlier, it might be different.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:34 pm

Thank you for the comments. I have no idea why O6 never occurred to me. Seems pretty clear in retrospect. :roll:

kokomi · Post by **kokomi** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:35 pm

Fwiffo and me will play on 14th Aug at GMT 20.00, if we are corretly paired (very unlikely to be wrong

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Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:39 pm

daniel_the_smith wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:8: Wrong way. The standard joseki gets you a nice wall to go with D3

Disagree. D3 is too far away. Black ends in sente and can nullify the wall.

As you can see here, when pros block the way you're proposing there's almost always a stone on or near D10. (Sorry, I'll try not to be obnoxious with stuff like this, but it's so easy to check now...)

Obnoxious? You have nothing to apologize for at all. It looks like you are right - the pros almost never play it that way unless there is something closer.
Thanks for catching my error.

mic · Post by **mic** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:12 am

Hi,

FYI, k1ndofblue and I am going to play on 28. July, 18:00 GMT.

Cheers,
Michael

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:34 am

Joaz Banbeck wrote:@zinger: The white pieces really worked well together in the fuseki. I enjoyed it.

Thanks JB. I consider the opening to be a weakness in my game so it's nice to hear that.

In the post-mortem, fwiffo and I agreed that white 84 was a big mistake, it should have been at C4. Then if black continues E2, white can take sente, perhaps to play J17, or maybe something like F14 for a moyoish strategy.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:22 am

Battousai (AKA serapsis) went over the game for me last night. He suggested that :b27:

should be at G3 because there's quite a bit of territory there and white cutting at G5 immediately is dangerous.

He thought :b37:

was the right direction, though he would have put it at Q8. He didn't like O6 immediately because white could actually sacrifice the L5 group for huge potential on the right side.

He agreed that the double hane at :b43:

was terrible. I feel like I lost the game there.

:b83:

was a really bad tenuki; K16 or L15 is better; anything to deal with my blighted group in my upper left. Likewise, :b99:

was a sincere effort to kill my own group. :roll:

And there was this sequence to live unconditionally, which I think I would have found if I was in "problem solving mode" instead of "panicky game mode":

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ ---------------------- $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . $$ | . O X . . . X O . . . $$ | . O O X X . W X O X O $$ | . . . O . X . . O . O $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . $$ | . . . X . . X . . . . $$ | . . . X X O O O . . .[/go]

k1ndofblue · Post by **k1ndofblue** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:41 pm

Mic and I played our game today and I came out victorious. I'll post the game later. Thanks for the game mic!

Post by **Jordus** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:00 pm

Oren and I will be playing our game tomorrow the 29th at 2pm Pacific time.

mic · Post by **mic** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:35 pm

Hi,

firstly, I'd like to thank k1ndofblue for the game, altough (in retrospective) I should have resigned after I lost the lower left corner ;-)

Since the tournament is over for me I'd like to thank all my opponents for enjoyable games, dfan for the tournament overview and topazg for organizing all this

Post by **Jordus** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:22 pm

Mine and Oren's game from this afternoon. I took White. W+R.

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