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Post #1 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:01 am 
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I want to study several games where a player has a lot of influence. I want to do this to study what strong players end up doing with said thickness/influence. I tried looking for games randomly but that's a bit tough to do.

So I'm hoping some of you might help me. I'm looking for games played by professionals or high/mid-dan players. Where a position arises that one player has a nice wall/sphere/area of influence and looking to see how both players handle it. How does the opponent try to render the wall/thickness/... useless, on the other hand how does the pro/dan player make his influence work.

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:07 am 
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You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:09 am 
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topazg wrote:
You could do a lot worse than looking through Takemiya Masaki title matches


Good tip!

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:58 pm 
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Here is an interesting Yasui Senchi Castle Game. :)


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Post #5 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:29 pm 
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Another Castle Game. With Sakaguchi Sentoku I.


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Post #6 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:18 am 
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Thank you, Bill. I'll be using both of these for my studying!

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Post #7 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:12 pm 
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A beautiful game just fell in my lap today. Was played about a month ago between Cho Chikun and Shibano Toramaru. Amazing game and great influence to be found and used!

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Here are some pro game videos i think you may need:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7CiMKoyzhtHHdqIF4ePsw

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Post #9 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 am 
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Thanks for that link, too!

Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.

What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.

In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!


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Post #10 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:44 am 
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Thanks for that link, too!

Anyway, I've already gone over a few games, still have many to go.
Today I played a game and I was building a lot of influence myself. So I decided to try and use the influence as I've already seen.

What I've noticed so far (could be wrong, though!) is that:
- pros tend to ignore their own influence. aka they play completely away.
- they keep their influence there and push their opponents towards it.
- they make points elsewhere on the board because of said pushing.

In the game I played, my influencal stones end up making 4 points on their own, but serve their function better in the middle game, I think.
So here's the game where I tried to put the teachings into practise. Let me know what you think of it!


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