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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 25 (NZ rules, 7 komi) seems to be mostly about aggressively reducing each other. Black wins by 2 or 4 points. https://online-go.com/review/504154
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[go]$$Wc Game 25 and five other games continue at C9. Game 24 continued at a instead.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 26 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ends up with absolutely enormous territories on both sides. Black's upper-right is worth more than 60 points, while white's lower side is worth more than 70 points. Of course it's a close game, anyway, and black wins by 2 points. https://online-go.com/review/507361
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[go]$$Wc Game 26, 27, 28 and 29 continue at N17. Game 25 continued at a instead.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 27 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was another close call that looked like it could end up as a tie, but black won by 2 points. Our current tally is 9 black wins, 5 ties, 13 white wins. https://online-go.com/demo/view/510251
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[go]$$Wc Games 26 and 28 continue(d) at a instead of K15. Game 29 will continue at b.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 28 (NZ rules, 7 komi) sees more huge territories - white's lower side is worth more than 65 points. This game ended up as our sixth tie. https://online-go.com/demo/view/512903
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[go]$$Bc Game 26 continued at a instead of D18.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 29 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is our new shortest game so far. After white plays N15 at move 100, black's winrate crashes from around 34 % (white by ~ 2 points) to around 8 % (white by ~ 8 points) and never recovers. Not sure exactly what it was that KataGo "missed" before move 100, but in the end white wins by 12 or 14 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/514146
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[go]$$Bc The opening. Black to play.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 30 (NZ rules, 7 komi) sees a similar crash. After white plays G4 at move 172, black's winrate drops from around 54 % (even score) to around 27 % (white by ~ 12 points). In the end, white wins by at least 38 points. This game includes a high playout variation at move 32 that I couldn't keep from displaying as the main variation. https://online-go.com/demo/view/515005
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[go]$$Bc Games 25, 26, 27, 28 and 29 continued at a instead of G18.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 31 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is the eleventh and last game continued from game 1, move 14, white D12 (the attach to black's pincer). It was a fitting end for the series in that it saw black mirroring that same position in the opposite corner. :) White wins by at least 10 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/515811
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[go]$$Bc Have y'all ever seen a ninth-line shoulder hit?
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After an unusual upper-left joseki that I intend to explore some further, game 32 (NZ rules, 7 komi) sees white trying to live Cho-Chihun-style in the center. Very fascinating fighting going on. White wins by at least 6 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/517203
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[go]$$Wc Game 34 also continues at E16. Games 15 and 16 continued at a instead.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 33 (NZ rules, 7 komi) turns into a drawn-out complicated ko fight and astonishingly (?) ends as a tie. Played out to the last move. https://online-go.com/demo/view/520371
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[go]$$Wc Game 32 also continued at L3. Game 34 will continue at a instead.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 34 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was (at least on the surface level) very peaceful. After 206 moves, white is firmly ahead by 2 points. https://online-go.com/review/524693
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[go]$$Bc Game 32 continued at a instead of Q17.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 35 (NZ rules, 7 komi) turned into one of the most complicated-looking center fights we've seen so far, even though it settles quite peacefully as a tie. Split off from game 19. https://online-go.com/review/526027
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[go]$$Wc The opening. White to play
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 36 (NZ rules, 7 komi) had another absolutely fascinating opening, a complicated fighting midgame, and a beautiful endgame that involved a ko that was fought for 73 moves. White wins by 2 points. :) https://online-go.com/review/528629
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Maharani
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 37 (NZ rules, 7 komi) IMO has the most bewildering, alien early midgame we've seen so far. Moves 15 - 40 or so are straight-up incomprehensible to this 11k. Of course, everything resolves in a beautiful endgame and whaddya know, it's our ninth tie (played out to the last move). Our current tally: 9 black wins, 9 ties, 19 white wins. Next up: Cross fuseki! https://online-go.com/review/534048
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[go]$$Bc Game 1 and ten other games continued at a instead of C10.
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Game 38 (NZ rules, 7 komi) looked relatively human (or at least understandable to humans) for the first 40 moves or so. White wins by 2 points. https://online-go.com/review/540073
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[go]$$Wc Games 38 and 39 continue at C4. Fifteen previous games continued at a instead. At least two games will continue at b, and at least one game at c.
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kg_7_komi_game_38.sgf
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Last edited by Maharani on Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:52 am, edited 4 times in total.
Maharani
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Re: My hand-crafted KataGo (+ AlphaGo Teach) self-play games

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Kata got mad at me for calling the previous game understandable by humans. Game 39 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is another absolutely alien-like game that involves incredible trades resulting in large territories on both sides and a breathtaking tie. Don't sleep on this one. https://online-go.com/review/543331
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[go]$$Wc Game 38 continued at a instead of Q14.
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kg_7_komi_game_39.sgf
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Last edited by Maharani on Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:53 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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