Game programs for boards more than 19x19

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new version q5go viewtopic.php?p=255994#p255994
downloads and saves SGF files games up to 52x52!
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on large boards (25 - 29) is it probably better to put handicap stones differently?
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how strong is the KataGo game level at 27x27 and 29x29?
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Friday9i, Could you upload your games on large boards?
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who plays on large boards 21x21 - 29x29, write your reviews, remarks, observations. what is interesting that is not on 19x19?
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Has anyone compiled a KataGo for boards larger than 29x29? for example, up to 37x37? post the link please! it is very interesting! some may think that KataGo will play poorly on large boards. but if we don't try it, how can we know it? and what does it mean bad, it's 9 dan? 7 dan? on large boards you can see something new that is not on the smaller ones. it's a whole new world! new unknown universe !!!
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the latest version of q5go provides analysis on boards up to 29x29 https://github.com/bernds/q5Go/actions
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lightvector, could you make a cpu version for big boards, up to 29x29? and maybe increase to 37x37? many "fans" will appreciate it. :) (or at least up to 33x33?)
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katago-v1.6.1 Bigger board sizes, including cpu version https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/releases
lightvector you are a wizard!
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it is wonderful! in the cpu version, not only a 30b network works, but also a 40x384 network on a 29x29 board without problems !!! taking up only about 2GB of RAM!
on AMD Athlon X4 950 this giant network 40x384 on the board 29x29, 10 visits, about 15 seconds per move! (if numSearchThreads = 3)
and considering that with playouts=1 this network is stronger than 9 dan, 10 visits is very good !!!
(viewtopic.php?p=259285#p259285)
but if it's not enough for someone, bet more! :D

I'm almost happy ... oh my dream ... 37x37 :)
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can any of the strong players (and not only) give advice on how I can analyze KataGo play on a big board, for example 29x29? maybe you can use the analysis of a part of the board (19x19) with a lizzie? if I use Tesuji? or something else? any ideas are interesting!
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memory usage (RAM) on different board sizes:

9x9 up to 2,007 GB
13x13 up to 2,035 GB
19x19 up to 2,099 GB
25x25 up to 2,198 GB
29x29 up to 2,265 GB

for about 50 moves. further practically does not change. cpu version 1.6.1, 40x384 network.
with a network of 20 b - 29x29 up to 693 MB.

there are probably no technical problems on boards up to 37x37. lightvector, make please, version up to 37x37! maybe like an experimental release? it will be better than someone else's release! it is not known what the "craftsmen" can do there! pleeease :)
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KataGo is a unique program! besides being the strongest, you can choose any board size up to 29x29! and it's strange why it is impossible to 37x37. Leela 0.4.6 (2016-04-07) allows this. but KataGo is incomparably more interesting! perhaps 37x37 is exotic. but isn't the 40x384 network exotic?
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finally there is a version of KataGo for boards up to 37x37!!!
https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/i ... -809341260
huge gratitude to @Friday9i !!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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KataGo s730 5 playouts - KataGo s730 5 playouts 35 X 35
to view you can use q5go, MultiGo, Sabaki. for Game q5go (up to 36 X 36)
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