The Reign of Ke Jie

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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by Uberdude »

Unfortunately Ke Jie couldn't quite complete the comeback and lost by 1.75 zi aka 3.5 points. Looks like it was a half point game to black in early yose but then his move 168 (see https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/room/25547/1/23631265) was a strange mistake (was he scared of forcing move from centre if he blocks?) and 4 point loss says Yikebot.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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Commentators on Fox undid the A8 move and blamed the game recorder :lol:. It was a tenacious fight but he dug too big of a hole.

There may be a need for a Ding Hao thread. He wasn't even in the top 50 to start 2019, very impressive year.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by Leon »

Uberdude wrote:Ke Jie is playing in the Chinese league finals right now Vs Ding Hao. He massively messed up a 3-3 invasion joseki after he tenukid and died (ladder doesn't quite work and yes he really played a8). Yikebot put him 20 points behind. But he fought back and now it's about even again!
So, can anyone explain to me that A8 move? What did the bots think about it? I cant understand it at all.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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It is a kind of probe (actually not working). If black answers at A9, the 3 stones in the center can be captured.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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Ke Jie is off to a 5:0 start in this year's Chinese A League after beating Park Junghwan again. He and Shin are really separating themselves from the pack.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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xiayun wrote:Ke Jie is off to a 5:0 start in this year's Chinese A League after beating Park Junghwan again. He and Shin are really separating themselves from the pack.
To be honest, it's Shin, Ke, and Park that are pulling away from the rest—the gap between any of those three players is greater than the gap between the ranked 4 to 10 players. It's really quite amazing—they are on another level(and Shin is in a league of his own right now!).
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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I wouldn't say Shin is in a league of his own right now. It might appear that way based on gorating scores, but it's mainly due to Shin being a lot more active than Ke Jie this year and winning 8 out of 9 games against Park. Maintaining such a high winning percentage is no doubt impressive, but Shin still has to prove himself against Ke Jie in the big tournaments, as he is now 3-8 after losing to Ke in LG cup this June. They have a chance to match up in Chunlan cup later this year.

I have been really impressed with Ke Jie since his return in June. Seems to be a lot more consistent in his end game than before. Studying at university certainly hasn't slowed him down.

Park is still great and continues to beat up on the other players, but he has lost the last 7 games combined against Ke and Shin, so based on the recent forms, I would put him clear 3rd.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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xiayun wrote:I wouldn't say Shin is in a league of his own right now. It might appear that way based on gorating scores, but it's mainly due to Shin being a lot more active than Ke Jie this year and winning 8 out of 9 games against Park.
Well, I mean, that's kind of like saying his rating is really high only because he's winning alot :scratch: I would still say Shin more or less in his own league right now, seeing as his record this year is 48 wins to 4 losses—he's been on an absolute rampage.
xiayun wrote: I have been really impressed with Ke Jie since his return in June. Seems to be a lot more consistent in his end game than before. Studying at university certainly hasn't slowed him down.
I'm super glad about this as well. I was afraid that Ke Jie would prematurely fade from the Go world as he started University on a relative downturn in his playing career. I hope we can see him win some more world titles in the future :D
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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I was doing a search to see if anyone discussed why Ke Jie went to university. I didn't see a direct discussion of why, but saw that some other pros also did. Is it normal for top pros?
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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I don't know anything about pros going to college or university in Korea or China but it is not uncommon for pros to go to college in Japan. In the past it was relatively easy to make a living as a go pro, even for lower dan ranks. Since go pros usually become a pro in their teen years many pros stopped formal education after high school. I would guess that more Japanese pros are going to college nowadays because it is more difficult to earn a decent living just from go.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

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Ah, that makes sense, thanks!
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by xiayun »

Both Ke and Shin lost their first game in Chinese A League; Ke lost by half point to Tang Weixing, while Shin lost to Gu Zihao.
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Re: The Reign of Ke Jie

Post by blackwing »

Biggest loss for Ke Jie this year getting eliminated from Ing Cup by Xie Ke.
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